I know we’re in the dunk tank and it’s old chapo tradition to interpret everything posted here in the worst faith possible, but maybe Glenn Greenwald, an investigative journalist, wants to say that it’s extremely irresponsible to play the alt-right game of screaming the name of the opposing group the second a mass shooting occurs just so we control the narrative for a moment.
FFS the top post was an obviously fake FB post by the guy (luckily deleted now). Yes, he killed asian women. That’s a suspicion. But not proof.
He’s not even saying “reserve judgement on this particular shooting” he’s saying that there’s no proof that the general uptick in anti-Asian violence has anything to do with white supremacy.
There’s a point to be made that sinophobia and anti-asian racism is a broader and more mainstream ideology than explicit white supremacism is (with the obvious caveat that it’s inherently linked to and derived from the American civic nationalist cult which is itself inextricably tied to white supremacist ideology, even if the way this manifests in a given person may favor one facet over another or even actively seek to hide some facets), but that’s not the way to make that point.
with the obvious caveat that it’s inherently linked to and derived from the American civic nationalist cult which is itself inextricably tied to white supremacist ideology, even if the way this manifests in a given person may favor one facet over another or even actively seek to hide some facets
This seems like an over-intellectualizing the fact that the US is pushing war propaganda against China right now.
Yes, it can be connected back to white supremacy. But calling the current Sinophobia & anti-Asian racism “white supremacist” provides cover for Sinophobes who no one would consider white supremacists e.g. Ilhan Omar & AOC.
I agree with what you everything you said, though. Just wanted to include this criticism. It applies to everyone in this thread.
The guy went around targeting Asian women specifically. He didn’t only kill asian women he targeted them. Going to two separate massage parlors,with some distance between them,to do the shootings. It’s not screaming the name of the opposing group to say that this guy has some racist and sexist motives behind these murders.
There’s obviously a rise of sinophobic violence in this country and I don’t doubt for a second that racism and sexism are to blame here. That said, there’s equal evidence in what you just said that this guy hated massage parlors.
He doesn’t hate the women and workers at the parlor, just the idea of the parlor itself.
I don’t think that’s a very good line of reasoning. By that logic there’s also evidence that the guy merely hates shops that are open late, because both of these places where open late.
Is the mere act of only targeting Asian-descent women at massage parlors not evidence of racism? Yeah he didn’t write a manifesto (that we know of) before doing these murders, but damn I feel like this is an awfully high level epistemological standards.
