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C’mon. It’s a way to signify an identity. No one’s actually getting raped or not raped because of a hijab. I just had a passover dinner. It’s not because I actually thought the angel of death killed a bunch of Egyptians and spared the Jews. I did it to express some Jewishness.

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You know that the significance of those two things are not the same

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They are for me.

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If you don’t participate in passover, you probably won’t get the same reaction as removing your hijab

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They absolutely are being raped because of a hijab. It’s indoctrination to a culture that others women and identifies them as less than. Women are devalued in the eyes of men and stripped on their agency and self esteem. It’s a tool of the patriarchy and analogous to western rape culture.

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It’s true. They do live in a society with gender norms, which will surely change when expressions of their ethnic identity are criminalized.

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So attack the racist motivations behind the law, then. Or does the idea of critical support only apply when supporting non-western aligned morality.

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Women are being raped because of hijabs? What does that even mean?

You know we’re talking about hijabs, which are like, a scarf, and not even burqas, right?

You may disagree with a culture, but how does you policing what people wear, religious or otherwise, help anyone, if it is not causing direct harm. If we’re talking about FGM or foot binding or skull shaping or something that is a “cultural or religious practice” that permanently debilitates women, then, yeah, that’s no good. But it’s a scarf that covers hair. I know lots of progressive, fucking amazing Muslim women who wear hijabs and kick ass. They wear it to be closer to their god and their religion, not because it signifies deferance to men.

It is a different situation in say, Saudi or Iran where it is mandatory - however, that is also overreach on governments policing clothing.

Your argument to me is based on some iteration of Islam that I haven’t experienced, and I’m not sure that outside of religiously ruled countries it exists. For that reason, it has a sense of Islamophobia - that is, policing the clothing of Muslim people. You’re choosing the default culture, and you’re choosing it to be in line with Western white anti-theistic ideals.

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I simply recognize that the dominant culture in Islamic countries is misogynistic, homophobic and transphobic. And hell yes I’m anti-theist, but that is not “western”. I’m fiercely anti-capitalist, anti-racist and anti-individualist, I’m as least western as they come. I’m definitely a chauvinist, but it’s moral, not cultural. Also I explained exactly how a hijab others women and removes their agency, but I see you’ve chosen not to engage with that topic at all and instead decided to call me, a non-white person who wasn’t raised in the hegemonic western culture a western chauvinist.

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