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Again: he’s literally a child. He’s 17. By all accounts his brain is a few years from being fully developed. You can’t be (rightly) upset about something like the military recruiting 17-year-olds and then turn around and have absolutely zero sympathy for a 17-year-old who gets talked into toting around a gun and shooting someone. That’s incoherent.

The tragedies you choose to center speaks volumes.

Who’s centering this?

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Yes! Why do people pretend like kids have no free will whatsoever. It’s so fucking weird.

Were the kids who joined the White Rose Society to fight against Nazi occupation still just kids? Are they not heroes, just the product of their environment?

People need to have some moral conviction, god fucking dammit.

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Again: he’s literally a child. He’s 17. By all accounts his brain is a few years from being fully developed. You can’t be (rightly) upset about something like the military recruiting 17-year-olds and then turn around and have absolutely zero sympathy for a 17-year-old who gets talked into toting around a gun and shooting someone. That’s incoherent.

How is that incoherent? I support prevention. White supremacists should not be indoctrinating children. I still do not have sympathy for white supremacist terrorists slaughtering anti-racist supporters.

It is disgusting that the military preys on children to carry out their imperial project, too. That does not change the fact a soldier raping and pillaging the Global South is undeserving of sympathy for their actions.

Who’s centering this?

“In addition to the lives this kid destroyed, his own should be added to the tally of lives ruined by the right. Poor kid, many of us here could have gone the way he did if not for luck and circumstance. Not that it’s any fucking excuse, but goddamnit what a waste”

Literally the top comment in this thread, that we both are responding to.

“Luck and circumstance” do not wipe away individual choices. This kid chose to slaughter anti-racist protesters last night. Millions of Rightist kids chose not to slaughter anti-racist protesters last night. He is not a “poor kid.” He chose to drive into a city he’s not from, and kill people.

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White supremacists should not be indoctrinating children.

“But I have no sympathy for any child they indoctrinate.”

In addition to the lives this kid destroyed, his own should be added to the tally of lives ruined by the right… Not that it’s any fucking excuse

I don’t know what you think “centering” means, but this ain’t it.

“Luck and circumstance” do not wipe away individual choices.

Exactly zero people in this thread are claiming it does. You can think a child should be held responsible for their actions but still think it’s a waste that they were steered into doing something horrible.

I mean, give me you take on child soldiers. Kill 'em all, right? Give me your take on some kid who grows up poor and surrounded by violence and then commits a violent crime himself. Send him to the chair, right?

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But I have no sympathy for any child they indoctrinate

I have sympathy for the indoctrinated children. There are acts that indoctrinated children can carry out that will make me lose sympathy for them. Carrying out an independent act of terror against anti-racist protesters on the cusp of adulthood is absolutely one.

I mean, give me you take on child soldiers. Kill 'em all, right? Give me your take on some kid who grows up poor and surrounded by violence and then commits a violent crime himself. Send him to the chair, right?

You really love jumping to conclusions. I do not have sympathy for Kyle Rittenhouse. If you want to explain, in detail, the scenarios you’re trying to describe, I’ll elaborate. The language you’re using leads me to believe they’re not analogous to the case of Kyle Rittenhouse.

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