Every once in a while I get that ominous feeling that killing and specially making animals suffer just for me to eat meat, fish and lactose is extremely wrong, but then I kinda forget.

I kinda see myself hunting wild game though so it’s weird.

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… you do realize that those vegetables you’re eating are being harvested by the very same slaves, right?

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For the most part, if you’re eating meat in 2020, you’re eating more vegetables indirectly through the animals you’re eating, so whatever slave labor is used to grow the vegetables that the animals eat is still more than whatever slave labor is used to grow the vegetables a vegan eats.

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So now we judge the quantity of slave labor that an individual indirectly causes? Does that mean that people who require higher calorie based are now more guilty based on the food to slavery index? I personally don’t eat sweets, and for every 100 tonnes of sugar cane harvested, only 8 tonnes of sugar is produced. Does this make me better than the vegans who do eat candies and such then?

I hope you understand how pedantic and purposeless this conversation gets when we’re trying to weigh how much slave labor each of our diets produce to artificially see who’s the better person.

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Slave labor is one metric, water resources is another. It’s something that we all need and there is only so much of it. Veganism is just less wasteful than other forms of sustenance, from resources to labor.

Making a case based one the .1% of the population that requires a high calorie diet for things like ultra competitive athletics is bordering on ridiculous. Most people can function on a modest caloric diet.

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I’m not sure what to tell you. It’s my position that less slave labor is better than more. This is not a difficult proposition.

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We can fix that by changing labor relations. There’s no way to make animal agriculture not terrible.

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There’s no way to make animal agriculture not terrible.

sure there is, it would just have to be scaled way down

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And with that the price of meat would go up six times. You can already buy that meat but you choose not to.

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“All suffering is equal, there can be no lessening of suffering without abstaining from all food!”

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