Every once in a while I get that ominous feeling that killing and specially making animals suffer just for me to eat meat, fish and lactose is extremely wrong, but then I kinda forget.
I kinda see myself hunting wild game though so it’s weird.
Yeah. It requires personal change. That doesn’t happen without material conditions changing, and I fail to see how material conditions will change in favor of veganism other than technology.
That doesn’t happen without material conditions changing
Shut the fuck up, jesus christ. When the chapos or Brace mentioned people dropping “material change” as if that makes them smart on stream the other day I didn’t think too much on it, but christ if this isn’t the spitting image.
You can easily not eat animal products, they’re fucking cheaper.
They literally aren’t. One of the cheapest premade sources of protein is a damn McDonald’s hamburger. The poor and the working class do not have a lot of time on their hands. Some aren’t neurotypical and can make their own food. If you want to be strong enough to deal with fascists, you need around 30g of protein while working out. A single McDouble can handle that for cheaper.
And don’t give me shit about whey protein, to make it cheap you’d have to use milk to mix it. You can’t just eat powder like that.
And you can argue that maybe we should readjust our priorities, make certain products that are more vegan than other products cheaper. Sure, I agree with that. But you are arguing for people to choose specific, expensive things and acting like it is easily available to poor working class people right now. And the only thing that will change that situation are the following circumstances:
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SocDem electoral veganism (lol, I don’t think they’re even willing to begin that conversation)
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Revolution, which has pro-vegan elements (which requires certain material conditions)
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Technological advancement
