Permanently Deleted

You are viewing a single thread.
View all comments
17 points
*

hey yeah I finds this pretty relatable. as a man it is so difficult to get real support from people. male and female, for different reasons. no one really cares and I have literally no idea how to make someone care about me. do I demand they care? beg? I can’t even picture it, like you said, its like they are interacting with a stranger in my own dreams. like i have friends I guess but when I was very sad last year all they did was exclude me from more things because of it, but they still pretend to care if i see them like its nbd? doesn’t seem very friendly to me. so now I’m basically filled with cynicism and disgust about the idea of interpersonal relationships in general, either romantic/platonic/sexual and all the things that exist just to facilitate those relationships. its fucked, definitely some real heafty alienation going on in our brain folds. don’t think i’m trans tho, I don’t really have an issue with having a penis or anything, though I do feel like my gender basically doesn’t matter?? hell if I know what to do about it, I just try to ignore everyone now and stay out of their way so I can vibe in peace, probably gonna just stay like this until I inevitably get shot in the head.

permalink
report
reply
5 points
*
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points
*

definitely relate. and yeah I think this is usually a male experience. like i get it, women need to look out for eachother and men usually like caring about women, but I wish I could get some of that treatment for me! I want hugs too :meow-hug: All I fucking got was my so-called friend telling me I need to be “more stoic like a Navy Seal” (told him I don’t emulate crazy baby killing psychopaths)

you are right that I don’t ever really see males struggle with this openly, but in my opinion I think a lot of males just don’t realize they are allowed to be vulnerable (well they sort of aren’t allowed as we are discussing) and pursue toxic/self-destructive behavior to cope with that. there’s also a spectrum of how emotional people are though a lot of males try to actively repress that. I suppose the standard solution is just to find a girlfriend and make her your therapist but that can be pretty toxic for her and as you said trying to date is an “exercise in suicidality” (really like that btw :michael-laugh:)

permalink
report
parent
reply

menby

!menby@hexbear.net

Create post

A space for masculine folks to talk about living under patriarchy.

Detoxing masculinity since 1990!

You don’t get points for feminism, feminism is expected.

Guidelines:

  1. Questions over blame
  2. Humility over pride
  3. Wisdom over dogma
  4. Actions over image

Rules (expansions on the guidelines):

  1. Mistakes should be learning experiences when possible.
    • Do not attack comrades displaying vulnerability for what they acknowledge are mistakes.
    • If you see good-faith behavior that’s toxic, do your best to explain why it’s toxic.
    • If you don’t have the energy to engage, report and move on.
    • This includes past mistakes. If you’ve overcome extreme reactionary behavior, we’d love to know how.
    • A widened range of acceptable discussion means a greater need for sensitivity and patience for your comrades.
    • Examples:
      • “This is reactionary. Here’s why.”
      • “I know that {reality}, but I feel like {toxicity}”
      • “I don’t understand why this is reactionary, but it feels like it {spoilered details}”
  2. You are not entitled to the emotional labor of others.
    • Constantly info-dumping and letting us sort through your psyche is not healthy for any of us.
    • If you feel a criticism of you is unfair, do not lash out.
    • If you can’t engage self-critically, delete your post.
    • If you don’t know how to phrase why it’s unfair, say so.
  3. No singular masculine ideal.
    • This includes promoting gender-neutral traits like “courage” or “integrity” as “manly”.
    • Suggestions for an individual to replace a toxic ideal is fine.
    • Don’t reinforce the idea the fulfillment requires masculinity.
    • This also includes tendency struggle-sessions.
  4. No lifestyle content.
    • Post the picture of your new grill in !food (feminine people like grills too smh my head).
    • Post the picture of the fish you caught in !sports (feminine people like fish too smdh my damn head).
    • At best, stuff like this is off-topic. At worst, it’s reinforcing genders norms…
    • If you’re not trying to be seen as masculine for your lifestyle content, it’s irrelevant to this comm. If you are trying to be seen as masculine, let’s have a discussion about why these things are seen as masculine.

Resources:

*The Will to Change: Men, Masculinity, and Love by Bell Hooks

Community stats

  • 3

    Monthly active users

  • 103

    Posts

  • 1.3K

    Comments