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I think folks are really underestimating the extent that the ruling class have bought their own ideological snake oil and are prone to making really, really stupid decisions. The Iraq War was an absolute and total failure on every count, Afghanistan was a nightmare, the Project for the New American Century was a dismal farce. The strategic “pivot” to Asia hasn’t done anything at all, and the US trying to create a new Anglo strategic defense alliance has only gone ahead and alienated the EU. The trade war with China backfired and cut the United States out of supply chains. I could totally see the US getting into a localized war in the South China Fleet and expecting to win, having their entire Pacific Fleet destroyed in the first hour, and then imprisoning every Chinese person and Chinese sympathizer in the United States for the foreseeable future.

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This interview with Julian Feeld of QAnon Anonymous kinda supports this. Basically the people that were selling something they knew was bullshit have been supplanted by the true believers, now we have people like MTG getting elected and taking their death cult into a dangerous realm of serious action.

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Another example of this is Claire Sterling’s 1981 book The Terror Network which argued that the Soviet Union was secretly supporting every conceivable terror group worldwide. Unsurprisingly the book was entirely based upon " CIA black propaganda " invented by the agency to discredit the Soviet Union.

The book had an incredible influence upon the Neoconservative movement who soon considered it gospel. This included Reagan’s CIA director, William Casey, who created an internal task force of the agency’s Soviet analysts and told them to find evidence for Soviet coordination of terror groups. When they came back and told him that no factual evidence existed because it was propaganda they themselves invested, he refused to believe them and started thinking the CIA was filled with Soviet sympathizers intent on misleading him.

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CIA was filled with Soviet sympathizers intent on misleading him.

:sadness: If only

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Basically, never underestimate how tightly Americans at all levels will cling to a piece of media and believe that it is real life.

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This is why I said we have until we elect some fascist psycho. Do people REALLY think we’re not going to get another Trump? Like the other guy said we have MTG in office, it’s not long until we have someone even more unhinged and loaded up on insane ideology like QAnon as president, along with a bunch of other nutters slowly worming their way in

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