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The Ukrainian government should have been more mindful of Russia’s security demands if they didn’t want to get invaded. its not fair but thats what you have do when there’s a nuclear-armed major power right next door. they could have probably gotten away with an elected zelensky government and their little civil war in the east as long as they disavowed nato, but they played tough with Russia and now their people are paying the price. the Ukrainian government is not blameless for the outbreak of hostilities.

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The Ukrainian government was manipulated by NATO (who also funded and armed the Neo-Nazi groups), which is really unfortunate for the Ukrainian civilians who did nothing wrong.

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Where the hell is anyone asserting that Ukrainians are all fascists? This is peak making up a guy and getting mad at him.

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most Ukrainians are not fascists anyone who believes that is dumb. the images of this war are horrifying and of course the common people with no say will pay the price. I just see a lot of people (not here really) demanding unwavering support of Ukraine’s position when its Ukraine who was acting irresponsibly (with western encouragement)- continuous violations of Minsk accords, blowing off Russian demands. Keep poking a guy with a stick and he might punch you in the face, though Russia is still definitely the aggressive one here still. But westerners should not be wanting to involve themselves in this conflict besides ending the war as quickly as possible.

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:PIGPOOPBALLS:

The west could have avoided this war completely. No love for Putin, or this war. But also your opinion is shit.

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The people of Donbass didn’t deserve to be shelled over the last, what? 8 years in violation of Minsk 2 either.

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Yeah whatever just don’t tell me I’m wishing death upon my friends’ loved ones and all Ukrainians just because i have a take on geopolitics.

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This just seems like bad advice in general , some of my friends are people who’s family history involves “escaping from communism” stories, should I burn all my bridges with them over something I can easily keep to myself.

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:what-the-hell:

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