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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict
Add to this if you can, thank you.
Links
Time/Map: https://time.is/Ukraine
Leftist discussion threads:
https://hexbear.net/post/177324
https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/t03foy/genzedong_russiaukraine_master_discussion_thread/
Twitter military updaters:
https://nitter.42l.fr/RWApodcast
https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary :kitty-cri:
https://nitter.net/Militarylandnet
https://nitter.net/MihajlovicMike
https://nitter.net/KofmanMichael
https://nitter.net/TadeuszGiczan/status/1498673348183744518
https://www.youtube.com/c/DefensePoliticsAsia/videos
obvious disclaimers about taking all of them with tonnes of salt etc
Global South Perspective: https://nitter.net/kiranopal_/status/1498723206496145413
Better war/propaganda analysis:
https://www.understandingwar.org
https://www.moonofalabama.org/
News updates:
https://www.cgtn.com/special/UkraineCrisis.html
Live: https://www.cgtn.com/special/Live-update-Ukraine-Russia-border-crisis.html
YT/Video in Ukraine:
Previous megathreads
!news@hexbear.net RSS Feed https://hexbear.net/feeds/c/news.xml
Also lefties fell for the TRUMP IS AN ACTUAL NAZI hyperbole, and by association for them Putin is an actual Nazi (because Putin and Trump are identical and on the same team obviously).
Putin is not a Nazi, he has grandparents killed by Nazis and has repeatedly discussed how he loathes them. He may be corrupt, rightwing and capitalist but he is not a fascist or a Nazi, and that equivocation is helping libs believe they are fighting on the righteous side with Ukraine
Also lefties fell for the TRUMP IS AN ACTUAL NAZI hyperbole
There was a lot of hysteria here, but there was also legitimately a rebirth of fascist activity and no effort made by the administration to restrain it. Assuming the worst about the state of the Empire is something I have trouble faulting leftists for.
Problem is, a lot of this was coopted into “vote blue no matter who” horseshit. Like, you cannot reconcile the idea of Trump as an ideologically committed fascist and think that he will be defeated by Pelosi ripping a piece of paper in half. On the other hand, many people (myself, anyway) recognized that shit was heating up and the response from the “left” (liberals) was woefully insufficient. Watching the Democrats retake the House of Representatives then sit on their fucking hands after calling Trump an existential threat to democracy was incredibly radicalizing in itself.
Calling him an actual fascist rings hollow when the two loudest groups shouting that he was a Nazi were establishment Democrats and “leftists” who vote blue for “harm reduction”.
The former got into power and did fuck all to combat Trump or reverse his policies or even mitigate them. The latter then covered up for Blue MAGA and started making excuses for them, and never pushed them to hard to reverse the “fascism” of Trump’s policies.
Hard to take either group seriously after that. In retrospect it was hyped up cynically to get democrat votes in the midterm. And I’m not faulting the hysterical doomsayers from a moralist perspective, but from a practical one - they did not have a coherent analysis of what Fascism is or what to do about it, and in the long run their alarmist cynical or naive nonsense will only make real fascism harder to call out
Problem is, a lot of this was coopted into “vote blue no matter who” horseshit.
Thus empowering someone who, if anything, has introduced far more structural fascism over his political career than Trump did. Wee hoo! 😒
I keep telling the libs: “Look, draw your line; voice your criteria. Either Trump and Biden are both fascists, or neither are. You really can’t produce honest criteria that allows you to have it both ways.” Makes lots of them very, very mad, obviously.
Yeah I never really bought into Trump being a nazi either myself. Racist reactionary asshole who panders to actual nazis in his base? Sure, but I never thought he was a true believer. I pretty much think the same of Putin as well. I mean, I want to take him at his word, at face value, and believe he’s honestly trying to take out neo-nazis in Ukraine.
Putin purged the far right elements within Russia a couple years ago, a ton of rightwing orgs had to go underground and unofficial because of political persecution. This doesn’t seem like the actions of a Nazi. If he panders, he panders to Soviet boomers with Stalin nostalgia
Right. I remember someone in one of these megathreads talking about the Russia boomers who still have so much nostalgia for the union and hate fascists.
Hmm. What about Dugin? People keep bringing him up. He certainly does seem to be an open Nazbol and influential within Russian politics, but that’s about all I know. I don’t really care all that much as I don’t see much reason to focus on anything but the U.S./NATO end as someone living in the U.S., but it does seem to bring some question to the honesty of Putin’s claims to be opposed to fascism…
Putin is not a Nazi, he has grandparents killed by Nazis and has repeatedly discussed how he loathes them
uuhm…based? where he say that?
Here he is talking about his parents and grandparents in the Great Patriotic War. His family was at Leningrad for part of it.
He made it illegal to compare the USSR to Nazi Germany, clearly showing he is at least to the left of the average western Liberal who claims they are identical and believe in horseshoe theory
There’s more but it’s hard to find because searches are flooded with deboonking articles about Putin de-nazifying the ukraine.
