Thank you @SeventyTwoTrillion for all your effort. :sankara-salute:

Old Map for reference

If you have any useful resource links please tag me in a comment with the link:

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to this if you can, thank you.

Links

Time/Map: https://time.is/Ukraine

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ukraine/@49.1162725,31.7993839,7z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x40d1d9c154700e8f:0x1068488f64010!8m2!3d48.379433!4d31.1655799?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1B1PLMhbHmG1aJ2-QNxHY1TksI6HlNhqF&ll=48.60777942568106%2C36.4496511633501&z=7

Leftist discussion threads:

https://hexbear.net/post/177324

https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/t03foy/genzedong_russiaukraine_master_discussion_thread/ :kitty-cri-texas:

https://lemmygrad.ml/

Twitter military updaters:

https://nitter.42l.fr/RWApodcast

https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary :kitty-cri:

https://nitter.net/Militarylandnet

https://nitter.net/MihajlovicMike

https://nitter.net/KofmanMichael

https://nitter.net/TadeuszGiczan/status/1498673348183744518

https://www.youtube.com/c/DefensePoliticsAsia/videos

obvious disclaimers about taking all of them with tonnes of salt etc

Global South Perspective: https://nitter.net/kiranopal_/status/1498723206496145413

Better war/propaganda analysis:

https://www.understandingwar.org

https://www.moonofalabama.org/

News updates:

https://www.cgtn.com/special/UkraineCrisis.html

Live: https://www.cgtn.com/special/Live-update-Ukraine-Russia-border-crisis.html

YT/Video in Ukraine:

https://www.youtube.com/c/PatrickLancasterNewsToday/videos

https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTe

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“Special operations” is propaganda nonsense. The Russians invaded a sovereign nation, which is an act of war. They may or may not have had a legitimate causus belli. I saw somewhere that they acted under some UN provision of “Duty to protect” the people of the DPR and LPR. But they’re at war. We’re not the Russian state media. We don’t have to use their language. This is no more a “Special Operation” than the US war in Vietnam was a “Police Action”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_action

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Not the issue at question. I’m discussing only the use of propaganda terminology by people here who should know better.

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On the contrary, peole here are much more often on the “invasion” extreme of the “invasion” - “operation” - “liberation” spectrum, I bet without even noticing.

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Yeah but it hadn’t officially been declared a War™ by wesyteen media yet so that doesn’t count

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Putin should have gone up to Azov and told them to “Cut it out!” right? Russia and the Donbas republics already tried diplomatic solutions for eight years, the shelling continued throughout. The Ukraine government was either uninterested in peace or unable to control parts of their military.

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So just invade the parts of Donbass that weren’t controlled by the DPR and LPR, while facing the full might of the Ukrainian military in that small area?

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😀

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was the Conflict form 2014-2022 a “Special Police Operation” like Ukraine Claimed …or also war … thats the Conext you have to see it in …Russia Trolling back the Spindoctors…

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Yes. it’s propaganda to legitimize a military action. But it’s just propaganda. State actors dance around the term “War” like it makes a difference whether civilians were killed by a war or a police action or a special military operation. It’s war. People are dying. It’s the most horrible thing that can happen. Trying to dress it up as something else is dishonest and should be condemned.

And yes, Ukraine is waging war on it’s Russian speaking minority and has engaged in actions that may fit the definition of genocide, and has certainly engaged in actions that have historically been the first steps towards genocide.

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State actors dance around the term “War” like it makes a difference whether civilians were killed by a war or a police action or a special military operation. It’s war. People are dying. It’s the most horrible thing that can happen. Trying to dress it up as something else is dishonest and should be condemned.

There Is No War But Class War, and radlibs who added Ukraine emoji flags to their twitter page are denying it everyday with their worthless idealism

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Charter of the United Nations Article 51

This will be important once the hot war is over, I think it was Ritter who explained the legal argument for the „special operation“.

„Collective defense“ or something is what they where invoking. So it’s not just propaganda but there is legal background.

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In Russian-speaking infosphere Roskomnadzor has attacked several western-liberal media outlets, accusing of, apart from fake news about shootings/bombings, calling the special military operation “war”. Some people dunk on it by calling it a not-war, or by substituting war for it in all other contexts, e.g. talking about a start of World Special Operation 3 :19::84: . However, you can see that this is the official stance and so official channels, many Putin stans and some simply cautious outlets have complied.

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