Comment by Malspoken [she/her]@hexbear.net on "Tankies made me a bloodthirsted chauvinist"

That won’t ever happen with the money and influence and military we have. There’s also nobody who would beat the US and make things better.

Russians is a laughing stock and probably would lose to Mexico’s drug cartels at their level of power. The Chinese aren’t leftists. They have more fucking billionaires than we do.

All of this is just whining because the US left is weak and needs someone else to beat the fash instead of actually organizing. This is cope because the left is in the shitter and it’s full of people who circle jerk post more than we organize . If we had a left that was 90% in control of the Democrats we wouldn’t be making these memes

The Chinese aren’t leftists.

We need to take control of the Democrats.

lol

The Chinese aren’t leftists. They have more fucking billionaires than we do.

:downbear:

Thinking that “the Chinese arent socialist” is one thing but thinking that " a socialist left that was 90% in control of the Democrats" is not only something that ever was remotely possible, achievable and something the left should have organized towards but it actualy was/is more plausible or a greater hope than the Chinese being socialists is deeply dumb, deeply american and deeply radlib . Like worse than Vaush tier worldview

I honestly think that if Vaush were asked that question it would take him a minute or two to for him to arrive at the mental gymnastics to say yes. If even he would. Literally who has a take like this that isn’t either one of his orbiters or would be considered a radlib even by his standards. :stalin-stressed:

I’m a CIA plant infiltrating your huge leftist movement of 50k people. Thanks for the unity comrade.

Dems are part of a solution. We still need dual power and community organizations etc. China bad, America bad, Russia bad UK bad, Iran bad. Nobody is out there helping American leftists. Leftism is supposed to be international and the Venezuelas are at least helping out here.

China bad, America bad, Russia bad UK bad, Iran bad. Nobody is out there helping American leftists. Leftism is supposed to be international and the Venezuelas are at least helping out here.

Literally a perfect bit. :chefs-kiss: No notes.

When a westoid makes a point to say “America AND China are bad,” 90% of the time they’re explicitly focusing on China with that statement. It’s almost never the other way around. They want an excuse to say China Bad while looking from the outside like they have nuance.

Disclaimer: I am also a westoid, so I’ve heard this shit a lot.

Why would we have unity with the person that builds the weapons that kill us?

The left needs to be power hungry because we don’t have any. Electoralism is fucking easy mode. If you can’t get people to vote we’ll never be ready for a revolution.

If you’re hungry for power, you don’t turn down opportunities. You take everything and anything that can give you an edge.

If the Dems have power the left should take what they can. If the right has power, we should take power as much as we can. If we can build dual power, we should do as much as we can.

Spend less time whining and more time building power .

Left can’t ever control one of the parties, not for long (see spd). In any case primary attack angle is rate of profit (co-ops/unions/means of production building), not electoral shenanigans. System can’t feed itself if the roots are shriveling, but it can co opt movements for another hundred years

I agree. They aren’t going to just let us waltz in. They are going to fight us tooth and nail for power. The fact the left can’t win against the Dems shows how badly we need to claw every bit of power we can from them and the right.

The person you were speaking to works in the USA arms industry lmao

We need more optimism and people willing to do something. I at least donate extra cash to a local mutual aid group. I’m trans, I’m lacking in people skills too so I don’t bother doing too much in person organizing type stuff because I don’t want to risk hurting the cause. But I try to help when possible. It ain’t much but it’s honest work

I think the US military is increasingly a paper tiger. It’s full of extremely expensive weapon systems that don’t work very well. It’s really good at sending small groups of guys to assassinate people, and it’s really good at dropping missiles on people who can’t defend itself, but it kind of sucks at everything else. I’m pretty sure an invasion of Iran would break the back of the US military. The biggest thing is that our industrial capacity is so gutted that we would struggle to replace war-time losses against a reasonably well equipped and highly motivated enemy.

I build these weapon systems.

This has to be a bit.

Nah, like half the country works for the arms industry. Are there even any jobs that aren’t marketing, service, or arms dealer?

It’s just so funny.

China isn’t leftist.
We have to take over the Democrats.
I work in the arms industry.

:agony-4horsemen: Western left bingo!

LMAOOO.

Also you forgot the mutual aid group

Right. So what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan, exactly?

Military wise the US can not be beat. Occupation and military strength is not the same as winning a war, they are related and can help, but you can still lose after your military has been wiped away. Economics are part of that too. The British held India with it’s ability to occupy and it’s military. But both require a stewing economy to back it up. That’s how Ghandi ended up winning.

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