Certainly long before the Louisiana purchase, and other westward expansion. Russia is less of a prison of nations that the US is.

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This is what race science looked like to build a system of identifying the good ones from the bad ones so that nazi Germany could justify its imperialism within their race science.

This is “Lithuanians are the real Rus” and an attempt at justifying their new dehumanised identifier for the enemy - “Muscovites”. You can then argue for exterminating all the Muscovites and install the real Russians as the rightful rulers of Russia.

We need a significant denazification of Europe. It’s going to get real bad.

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Europe has been a racist shithole for multiple millennias.

America could have been the greatest nation in the world if we didn’t treat the natives like something to be eliminated, and didn’t enslave people to build it. A melting pot is amazing. A nation built of people from all over the world working together not based upon ethnicity, nor nationality… but we are the most racist nation in the world, with the largest wealth gap and the highest military budget. Literally the empire- a hypocritical parody of itself at the greatest level.

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Europe has been a racist shithole for multiple millennias

no it hasn’t race as a concept was made up in the 1600’s. The idea that there are white people and black people literally isn’t old enough for people to have been racist for millenia

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Technically speaking, classifications of Subsaharan Africans and Central/East Asians into their own boxes goes as far back to Ancient Rome, at least since the Romans started cultivating relations with Cushitic and Ethiopian kingdoms after the conquest of Egypt (which already had a diverse population). Of course, there wasn’t the system of exploitation and conquest which would make said classifications less obscure beyond footnotes by explorers/geographers.

Aside from that, it’s certainly possible to be racist towards people who you consider biologically separate. A significant amount of Romans certainly were towards other Europeans they conquered (though it’s not quite comparable to what we’d see later in the 18th century onwards).

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Pretty sure this is not correct.

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Nah, if America didn’t use slave labour it never would have become as powerful as it is. Maybe if they immediately began building communism, but the population would be half the size it is today

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If the plan was to immediately build communism, the mercantilist monarchies would have never funded the expeditions to cross the sea

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Why did we have to be powerful to be great?

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:jesse-wtf: The USA wouldn’t have existed without the New World conception of racism, and the old world wouldn’t have adopted racism as it is without ideas around segregation coming from colonial governments. The only ethical govt that could have appeared at the time would have been a group of native confederacies.

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Without Native genocide, it wouldn’t be America. America could never have been great.

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