I think we should learn from it.
What creates a socialist offline? Negative interaction with bosses? Landlords?
- Create a culture online that will bring people into conflict with these things. Make it entertaining and fun, not overt communism.
- Wait.
- People that take this culture offline have conflict that radicalises them.
- Become communists.
- Provide explicitly communist spaces that radicalise them.
If I were going to pinpoint any one single space online that is achieving the correct culture to create these conditions I would say it’s /r/antiwork, even now with its liberal infection. The one downside however is that it is explicitly NOT pushing people on to the stage 5 part, it is stopping short at “we need to make the workplace better” in direct conflict with its own “we should abolish work” ideology. A number of its mod team can not see how what they’re doing is only going to achieve social democracy and is failing to radicalise people beyond that.
Before /r/antiwork it was /r/chapotraphouse that was VERY successful at creating the above situation and radicalising people further through /r/moretankiechapo and other spaces. 196 almost achieved the same thing too but fell short due to garbage anti-ML mods.
Hasan and a few other streamers are achieving this stuff off reddit.
I have not yet seen anyone particularly successful at creating this setup on Twitter but I think it’s possible.
TikTok is extremely good at doing this but MLs are scared of video cameras making them too small a minority on the platform.
And lastly – the biggest longterm priority for harming the fascists is the removal of the communities that they use to create reactionary culture spaces online. 4chan being number 1. It won’t solve anything instantly but would be a significant setback 10 and 20 years from now.
I’m doing my part of manufacturing consent on 196 and showing people that muh evil tankies aren’t always (and in fact the majority of the time) aren’t hyper reactionary ass holes (though they usually are quite progressive assholes).
I’ve actually gradually built up a clique of something like 50 gay ML sympathisers (and a few porn bots for some reason) who I occasionally call liberals.
I have no idea how you’ve done that without getting endlessly attacked and/or banned. Method?
My attempt to have any impact there was a huge waste of time, just got called a red fascist repeatedly and eventually banned.
If you can cut through the anti-tankie culture and create enough of a core clique that defend it then you can probably do a sort of culture flip and turn it in correct direction. If it had MLs running it in the first place it would have taken over where CTH left off very easily.
