There’s actually some good takes. From the replies:
it’s so funny that you say the left’s radicalization moment was a broad systematic failure by the elites that caused mass suffering and that conservatives became radicalized from ppl on the internet not being nice to them.
Not even just the internet, but also college campuses. Really telling on themselves and the level of privilege they occupy
They’re mad the cute girl in their mandated gender studies course won’t sleep with them because they spent 45 minutes of day one explaining why they aren’t a feminist
Imagine being a conservative because you spilled beans on yourself watching Cars 2
For leftists, their radicalization is due to material circumstances of history which caused massive harm and death.
For rightists, their radicalization came from a meany SJW pointing out their bigotry
For rightists, their radicalization came from a meany SJW pointing out their bigotry
This isn’t even the accurate moment in time they were radicalised.
It’s the moment that the right pinpoints, but it’s incorrect. The actual material moment in time they were radicalised was when they were sucked into a culture of racism and bigotry, mostly online.
Taking this culture of racism and bigotry offline then resulted in the experience they claim radicalised them.
The source of the fascists IS the reactionary spaces and culture online, on 4chan, in videogames, in MRA circles, in pickup, and so on.
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Create entertaining reactionary culture space online. Make it funny and enjoyable.
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Wait.
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Idiots get mad that their extremely online culture gets them ostracised offline.
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Idiots become fascists.
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Provide explicitly fascist spaces for further radicalisation.
I think we should learn from it.
What creates a socialist offline? Negative interaction with bosses? Landlords?
- Create a culture online that will bring people into conflict with these things. Make it entertaining and fun, not overt communism.
- Wait.
- People that take this culture offline have conflict that radicalises them.
- Become communists.
- Provide explicitly communist spaces that radicalise them.
If I were going to pinpoint any one single space online that is achieving the correct culture to create these conditions I would say it’s /r/antiwork, even now with its liberal infection. The one downside however is that it is explicitly NOT pushing people on to the stage 5 part, it is stopping short at “we need to make the workplace better” in direct conflict with its own “we should abolish work” ideology. A number of its mod team can not see how what they’re doing is only going to achieve social democracy and is failing to radicalise people beyond that.
Before /r/antiwork it was /r/chapotraphouse that was VERY successful at creating the above situation and radicalising people further through /r/moretankiechapo and other spaces. 196 almost achieved the same thing too but fell short due to garbage anti-ML mods.
Hasan and a few other streamers are achieving this stuff off reddit.
I have not yet seen anyone particularly successful at creating this setup on Twitter but I think it’s possible.
TikTok is extremely good at doing this but MLs are scared of video cameras making them too small a minority on the platform.
And lastly – the biggest longterm priority for harming the fascists is the removal of the communities that they use to create reactionary culture spaces online. 4chan being number 1. It won’t solve anything instantly but would be a significant setback 10 and 20 years from now.
i got bullied and i got sad so i joined a fascist paramilitary :powercry-1:
