I’m doing my part of manufacturing consent on 196 and showing people that muh evil tankies aren’t always (and in fact the majority of the time) aren’t hyper reactionary ass holes (though they usually are quite progressive assholes).
I’ve actually gradually built up a clique of something like 50 gay ML sympathisers (and a few porn bots for some reason) who I occasionally call liberals.
I have no idea how you’ve done that without getting endlessly attacked and/or banned. Method?
My attempt to have any impact there was a huge waste of time, just got called a red fascist repeatedly and eventually banned.
If you can cut through the anti-tankie culture and create enough of a core clique that defend it then you can probably do a sort of culture flip and turn it in correct direction. If it had MLs running it in the first place it would have taken over where CTH left off very easily.
It’s basically just like talking to liberals normally, except you can be more progressive: make a pretence of political neutrality (between MLs and ancoms that is) and that you’re mostly agree with them and you’re just pointing out corrections, don’t be overly aggressive unless you feel like you can definitely flip the argument in your favour, don’t outright state support for the USSR or China or North Korea, also if you write out a semi long post that counters the anti-communist lies just vaguely mention some books you read that you’re drawing from as sources. I also sometimes when its relevant throw out the fact that my aunt lived in the USSR for over a decade and saw its collapse first hand as it happened while she was living in Moscow (also she knew someone who won the Hero of the Soviet Union medal for bravery in ww2, it’s not really relevant but it’s a cool fact), it basically stops anyone from going “well actually I read this western fed infested pro-establishment ‘anarchist’ newsletter that said that the USSR was fascist so I know better than the person who gave you personal descriptions of seeing union leaders beaten in the streets after Yeltsin got in” without them looking like a complete asshole and further legitimising your point. Also don’t mention Holodomor or the Uyghurs because redditors have kneejerk reactions to those subjects.
I think it also helps that I’ve got decent karma on the sub for all the shit memes I post there and the occasional funny joke I make in the comments so the mods see that and are pretty certain that I’m not a troll.
This unfortunately maintains the status quo of the space being anti-tankie and deliberately NOT pushing people onto any spaces that would further radicalise them though. It’s absolutely necessary to eliminate the anti-tankie narrative and have a culture where further radicalising yourself by going deeper and deeper is a virtue. All these spaces doing anti-tankie stuff are trying to radicalise people to X point and then NO FURTHER. They’re aiming for socdem outcomes by doing it.
