you don’t know who is a cop and who isn’t though. that’s the point i am making. and when you say online that people who do as you said “are probably cops” it encourages people to cop-jacket those people at protests in the future. which happened all the fucking time during BLM by the way, with (usually white) liberals accusing young POC of being undercover cops.
you don’t know who is a cop and who isn’t though. that’s the point i am making.
that’s a point i would generally agreed with it, but you came out the gates with: “your attitude causes divisions among the oppressed” and " don’t blame people who are fighting back for the state’s violence against people."
which you sounded MIGHTY fucking certain that that’s what I was doing, especially since you followed up with “yes you did. you are blaming people other than the police for the violence the police inflict”
i presented a hypothetical police infiltrator and you took to attacking me, an actual person, in order defend a completely hypothetical pig infiltrator. weird shit. sanctimonious too. “oh but it’s actually probably just a 15 year old kid at his first protest who threw something then got scared.” let’s not twist ourselves into pretzels over this. I’m just saying the pigs infiltrate protestors and initiate hostilities, which is completely in keeping with STATE VIOLENCE AGAINST PEOPLE, something I would NEVER DEFEND.
btw to address your hypothetical, which came pretty late in this conversation, if some kid at his first protest gets 40 unarmed people with signs mauled because he decided to throw some shit and then run, then that’s terrible solidarity. that person is a liability whether they’re a cop or not. but I wouldn’t be surprised if pigs sent their little rittenhouse-ass children among protestors to stir up shit, too.
No one “got them mauled” except the police who mauled them. That’s what you’re not getting.
But we can agree to disagree.
No one “got them mauled” except the police who mauled them. That’s what you’re not getting.
i’m literally talking about POLICE INFILTRATORS not ACTUAL PROTESTORS. that’s what you’re not getting. “but what if they’re innocent you shouldn’t just pig jacket people” I’m not actually accusing a real person of anything, I’m talking purely hypothetically about what behavior to look out for at protests which is quite literally what this thread is about. if I said “prideboy is a fucking pig” that’s cop jacketing someone. if I say “watch out for pigs at protests getting protestors mauled” that’s not cop jacketing someone. stop being obtuse. this isn’t an “agree to disagree” situation you just continually mischaracterize what i’m actually saying over and over and it’s frankly tiresome. it’s telling which points you decide to quote and which points you seem to completely read past over and over again. maybe you can disagree with what i’m actually saying rather than what you assume i’m saying.
