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I feel like the question needs to be asked; exactly how normal are “lonely young men” these days, anyways?
Even so… The main difference in being understood to be the latter over the former does seem to boil down to how much one believes their isolation to be a social problem, rather than the place they simply naturally ought to inhabit.
At least, that’s what I see.
No, the main difference is whether you see solely others as the reason of you being lonely or not. People who like to be alone won’t ask for a “young beautiful virgin”.
Not getting laid is not a social problem. It’s not even a problem in the first place.
Not getting laid is not a social problem. It’s not even a problem in the first place.
I mean, this is what capitalists/reactionaries/bootlickers say about all sorts of things, like representation in media, realistic beauty standards, healthcare, gainful/meaningful employment, etc.
No, the main difference is whether you see solely others as the reason of you being lonely or not.
How would one go about ascribing their own social isolation to social causes in a way that is legitimate to you? Or is it just that you reject out of hand that there are any illegitimate causes for the social isolation of young men?
People who like to be alone won’t ask for a “young beautiful virgin”.
I mean, I also wouldn’t.
Not getting laid is not a social problem. It’s not even a problem in the first place.
I have to say that I think that this point is kind of an irreconcilable disagreement. I think that if a given set of people cannot engage in basic human social activities, then that’s both a problem & potentially a social one.
Like most, I think this is primarily a problem rooted in the class system though.
I have to say that I think that this point is kind of an irreconcilable disagreement. I think that if a given set of people cannot engage in basic human social activities, then that’s both a problem & potentially a social one.
I hate to say it, but any kind of solution to the problem of lonely men isn’t going to come from the West (or from leftists in the West). I think it’s going to come from the comrades in the Global South. I’m curious how China is going to handle its surplus of men (https://jezebel.com/china-and-india-have-a-man-surplus-and-its-as-dire-as-i-1825360810). I seriously doubt they’re gonna do what I see most on here and other mostly western leftists do (i.e. respond with ridicule but no tangible solutions, just platitudes of “be yourself”).
How would one go about ascribing their own social isolation to social causes in a way that is legitimate to you? Or is it just that you reject out of hand that there are any illegitimate causes for the social isolation of young men?
No? The meme is about people who blame women solely for their own isolation. Period. So if you want to ascribe your social isolation don’t do it by asking someone who wants to help to give you a “free beautiful girlfriend”. That’s all there is to it.
I have to say that I think that this point is kind of an irreconcilable disagreement. I think that if a given set of people cannot engage in basic human social activities, then that’s both a problem & potentially a social one.
I mean yeah, i don’t consider sex as a basic social activity for some time and my life has been infinitely better since then so there indeed is a vast difference between us.
