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Who the hell is saying public schools are bad? Show yourself, coward!

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you go one step further than (borrowing from another comment here) “schools are nothing more than vocational training for prison”, think a solution is abolition, usually the advocate for this is still in mandatory schooling :thinkin-lenin:

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As the person who said that US public schools in my area are vocational training for prison, I favor a public and mandatory education system with no private option

But I live outside of a city in the southern US, where the schools have been methodically stripped of their ability to teach, and I don’t even want to abolish that. I’ve just said the equivalent of, “homeschooling makes sense for some people”

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i agree with ‘vocational training for prison’, its a very good verbiage, and dovetailed with abolition because prison abolition is correct whereas school abolition is not so much, and people who go for the latter tend to make an error in equating prisons and schools

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usually the advocate for this is still in mandatory schooling

:yea:

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The people who are most affected by an institution aren’t allowed to criticize it actually

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Big :cringe: take. I’d at least see the argument having some standing if it says schools are just vocational training to being a wage slave. But prison doesn’t make much sense

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There is actually a good point here. Public schools as they are now are very prison-esque with strict and arbitrary discipline, regimented schedules, silence as a virtue, etc. It removes all autonomy from the student and infantilizes them.

I’m not saying that children should be allowed to just do whatever they feel like, but the idea that people under the age of 18 have nothing of value to contribute is harmful to them.

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I’m referring to the School to Prison Pipeline, with a shitpost degree of flippancy

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prisoners don’t have rights in the same way children don’t. not that schools teach one how to use their rights and live with dignity but they at least pretend you have those outside of prison. in both situations youre wards of the state the state loathes and can’t technically let die but can also force them to do shit & punish them with impunity. and charge you for it all on top of that. they’re very similar imo

the problem with abolitionists is theres genuinely things people in a society ought to know and its the duty of the society to impart that. but this can be done with dignity and without shitty economic imperatives.

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