Comment by Dingdangdog [he/him,comrade/them]@hexbear.net on How can I get like $3k ASAP?

Not in a great spot. My material needs are met, so don’t worry about that. Just want to break out of the cycle I’m in of “oh hey, you have only a few hundred from this paycheck before you’re negative again.”

It’s not a comparison, they’re literally chattel. They’re literally sentient. Stop being a slavery apologist, human supremacist

You exclude nonhumans from personhood so you can excuse forcing them to labor and die for your own profit. You don’t want to call it slavery because you’re a human supremacist

Perhaps the social schematism of perception in anti-Semites is so altered, that they cannot even see Jews as human beings. The ceaselessly recurrent expression that savages, blacks, Japanese resemble animals, or something like apes, already contains the key to the pogrom. The possibility of this latter is contained in the moment that a mortally wounded animal looks at a human being in the eye. The defiance with which they push away this gaze – ‘it’s after all only an animal’ – is repeated irresistibly in atrocities to human beings, in which the perpetrators must constantly reconfirm this “only an animal,” because they never entirely believed it even with animals https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/adorno/1951/mm/ch02.htm

Shocking. Bees feel pain !? Did you know that honey bees like Apis mellifera and wasps like Vespula vulgaris for example recognise faces?

Your tone indicates you’re not taking me seriously, when I expect a serious response requiring proper engagement from you on the issue of animal abuse. Why aren’t you vegan? Please read on the principle of charity. Unironically, though, there is an animal holocaust; you are right. :)

I think the systemic killing of all animals is genocide. The animal kingdom includes wasps, so yes, killing wasps is genocide.

They are the same thing in terms of genocide. However, as clarification, would I more broadly call the oppressions the same thing in an imprecise way? Yes and no. Yes, because of the co-constitution between animal and human oppression, whose context, values, ideologies, socialised/codified social behaviours and social structure/material conditions are full of continuities. No, because they still have different contexts and have unique oppressions in their own ways. An imprecise answer to that question is analogous to someone saying racism and queerphobia are the same things, which is something I wouldn’t claim. Everything needs to be looked at and explored in its unique entirety. We need to acknowledge both the similarities and the differences of the oppressions and consider their unique entireties in order to uproot their evils to our best extent.

Thank you for answering the question.

Shockingly, someone not looking like you isn’t license to murder them

Why the fuck are you even bringing up genocide, the Holocaust, and Judaism as a response to me telling you to stop hurting animals? You’re very obviously using us as a prop and it’s fucking gross and antisemitic. Your very mature response of “no u” when I said you’re using Jews as a prop is belied by the fact that it has absolutely nothing to do with carnists like you mocking vegans for saying we shouldn’t breed and murder shrimp and fish for money because they’re sentient beings who deserve consideration and don’t want to die.

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