Comment by Maaskarpone [they/them]@hexbear.net on How can I get like $3k ASAP?

Not in a great spot. My material needs are met, so don’t worry about that. Just want to break out of the cycle I’m in of “oh hey, you have only a few hundred from this paycheck before you’re negative again.”

Shocking. Bees feel pain !? Did you know that honey bees like Apis mellifera and wasps like Vespula vulgaris for example recognise faces?

Your tone indicates you’re not taking me seriously, when I expect a serious response requiring proper engagement from you on the issue of animal abuse. Why aren’t you vegan? Please read on the principle of charity. Unironically, though, there is an animal holocaust; you are right. :)

Why do you care? You’re clearly not asking in good faith. It’s wrong to hurt nonhumans, and you should stop trying to justify it by using Jewish people like me as a prop

It’s been five minutes. I’m at work

I think the systemic killing of all animals is genocide. The animal kingdom includes wasps, so yes, killing wasps is genocide.

They are the same thing in terms of genocide. However, as clarification, would I more broadly call the oppressions the same thing in an imprecise way? Yes and no. Yes, because of the co-constitution between animal and human oppression, whose context, values, ideologies, socialised/codified social behaviours and social structure/material conditions are full of continuities. No, because they still have different contexts and have unique oppressions in their own ways. An imprecise answer to that question is analogous to someone saying racism and queerphobia are the same things, which is something I wouldn’t claim. Everything needs to be looked at and explored in its unique entirety. We need to acknowledge both the similarities and the differences of the oppressions and consider their unique entireties in order to uproot their evils to our best extent.

Thank you for answering the question.

No problem. You’re welcome.

Though, you do realise one of the reasons why the other person wasn’t answering your question is because it’s offensive to tokenise groups of people with a bad-faith question. At least, I wouldn’t answer in their shoes. The user provided the perspectives of holocaust survivors or their family members. Please read the compiled perspectives, but more crucially please urgently change your behaviour to the animals according to vegan ethics. You don’t need to know theory to know that killing innocent beings, our animal cousins, is wrong. You only need empathy and an empathetic (empathic?) response. You understand they suffer like us and want to live? And that their suffering at our hands and their desire to live are valuable for our decision-making? Then, we can act on that. The theory is an added treat, helping us to develop our understanding, but it is not crucial to make this change in behaviour. The theory can come after the switch, and can help develop your praxis.

Shockingly, someone not looking like you isn’t license to murder them

Why the fuck are you even bringing up genocide, the Holocaust, and Judaism as a response to me telling you to stop hurting animals? You’re very obviously using us as a prop and it’s fucking gross and antisemitic. Your very mature response of “no u” when I said you’re using Jews as a prop is belied by the fact that it has absolutely nothing to do with carnists like you mocking vegans for saying we shouldn’t breed and murder shrimp and fish for money because they’re sentient beings who deserve consideration and don’t want to die.

Because it’s a loaded and irrelevant question posed by a troll as a trap. And stop editing the substance of your posts after posting, it’s dishonest

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