Hm, these “Foundation of Economic Education” folks don’t sound too bad…
The Foundation for Economic Education is listed as a partner organization of the Charles Koch Institute.[3]
Lol
To sum up the vid:
It’s not actually communism, it’s democratic participation in a cooperative, classless society with the goal of meeting each other’s needs and contributing to the greater whole!
:engels-wut:
It’s also not new! Early societies have done this and certain groups of people do it today!
:marx-hi:
I suppose the response to these kinds of bad faith arguments is “Cool, maybe it’s not communism. So why are we not choosing this over Capitalism then?”
(Admittedly, I haven’t watched the show so maybe he is right and Jackson is not really a Communist society, just not with the arguments he presented.)
Pretty sure I’ve heard people talk about how there’s a whole “revolution worse/the same as current fascism” subplot.
I’ve heard people complain about the previous episode, insinuating that the fascist militia was actually a revolutionary communist group and their negative portrayal was anti-communist. Which is pretty hilarious, seeing as the following episode (this one in OP) was pretty unambiguously celebrating a mutual-aid based commune and calling it communism (non-derogatorily)
It would be easier to accept seeing rebels as bad, which of course a lot of the time they would be, if it wasnt always always leftists portrayed like that. Its such a trope.
? How are they leftist? They don’t say a singular nominal leftist thing, they obviously don’t believe in any sort of restorative justice, they don’t seem to care one bit about other people in general, there’s not a single economic thought in their dialogues, they are opportunistic insurrectionists with a vaguely chuddy slant. If anything, it’s alluded that there’s some racist motivation playing into it, seeing as the militia is almost exclusively white, killing anything that moves in a urban environment (most notably, the Black side-characters we get to know a bit). Like, if you think those guys are just leftists portrayed in an unfavorable, anti-communist light, I think you’ve made one wall joke too many and you must read any sort of ressentiment-driven, retributive anti-establishment action as inherently revolutionary (and not just that, communist revolutionary, for some odd reason apparently), and like, no wonder we’re having to talk about red-brown alliances these days. Driving around with the boys and killing people is not inherently communist, or leftist, and portraying this negatively is not anti-communist framing :warf-wtf:
I watch and enjoy the show. The first few episodes were thoroughly fascist, but then we had the heartwarming gay dudes loving each other episode, and now we have the communism good episode. It honestly didn’t seem critical of communism at all to me; the only issue was that fucking American flags were in every shot and one of the characters mentioned that she had used to be an assistant DA. As with Andor, liberal showrunners seem to recognize that people enjoy communist slop for some weird reason.
Yeah, its defanged media communism. Its nice, I liked Andor too, but its not exactly theory (which is fine its just entertainment)
There’s a fair bit of theory in Andor, but it’s in the same way The Good Place had philosophy, very surface level to anyone with even a passing acquaintance.
