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Just say NO to yankee gentrifiers

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is xenophobia cool now?

is turning away refugees from one of the most right wing countries on earth a marxist position now?

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is turning away refugees from one of the most right wing countries on earth a marxist position now?

I would support open borders for every Syrian, Yemenese, Libyan, Afghan, Iraqi, etc, etc before I support accepting even a single American “refugee”.

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Lol, what we think doesn’t matter. We aren’t in charge of Russia, China, and Vietnam. Once Americans reach refugee status, they’ll likely turn you away whether they claim to be marxists or not.

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Surely you see the irony in an American going to a third world country and declaring “refugee status”. Even if America is doing poorly, going to the countries OP mentioned (China and Vietnam), the ones that literally make everything for Americans and the rest of world, countries that are only catching up to US life expectancy now, countries where your average person only got a refrigerator and only achieved full electrification in the last decade, (I think 1/4 Vietnamese households still did not have a fridge by 2018), and claiming to be a refugee will not go far or well.

Working a shit job with no way to retire or to stop having to work 60 hours a week when your body is killing you… Makes you a fucking refugee

How do you think people work in the global south? How do you think your average Chinese or Vietnamese factory worker, that likely made the shoes you are wearing and the electronic device you are typing on, works? If that makes you a refugee, then 99% of the world’s population are refugees, and by that standard, what does that make the average person in the countries people want to move to? A slave? Why do you think so many people flee their countries to try move to the US and Europe? Why do so many global south countries struggle with brain drain to the west?

If you want to move to another country for a cheaper cost of living do it, but don’t claim to be a refugee, that’s just ignorant. Words actually have meanings.

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Ahh, but haven’t you considered that if a first worlder hasn’t received their fair share of plunder from the Global South, that makes them the real victim?

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Words actually have meanings.

Lol here comes the language prescriptivist. Actually, if you wanna get all :shapiro-gavel: about it a refugee is : one that flees (especially: a person who flees to a foreign country or power to escape danger or persecution) (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/refugee). And living in the US is full of dangers like not having health insurance or having to pay high bills even if you do. QED, checkmate lib!

But all jokes aside, I see what HexbearGPT is saying. I get it. You do too. The west, especially the US, fucking sucks. I don’t mind calling myself a refugee if try to escape this hellhole. If anything it adds more validity to how fucked up it is here. Maybe we’re not as “dire” of refugees as those from the global south, but I have absolutely no problem using that term for fleeing this shitty place.

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Almost every expat I know is usually some tech worker (recently remote work is becoming more popular) or a teacher, and a couple of entertainers. The teacher is likely more valuable and “fairer” as your salary is usually more in line with what the citizen teachers make, and you’re teaching others a valuable skill. I don’t think I’ve ever heard of an expat integrate into the more common jobs like day laborer, farmer, construction worker, etc.

Not saying you should just worship poverty and perseverance porn, but calling yourself a refugee while you’re likely getting paid $60,000 remote coding job from the country you escaped from might make you seem out of touch

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Yes, get wrecked :cracker:

Gotta keep American mental viruses contained :sicko-hair:

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as an american, xenophobia towards americans is completely justified. You make a hell of a lot of inflammatory positions whenever you enter a chat-

wait libsoc is that you?

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as an american, xenophobia towards americans is completely justified.

I know counter-factuals are a-historical and kinda pointless, but imagine how many genocides could have been prevented if all indigenous peoples had killed whitey on sight instead of engaging with their missionaries and letting them settle?

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If the place you’re living in is getting gentrified, it’s xenophobic to dislike the gentrifiers.

:picard:

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Those responsible for gentrification are not the plebs pushed around the land by market forces and state policies, the people responsible are those who run the banks and create the government policies that lead to gentrification because it is profitable for the investor class.

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Lol is this a joke

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Not all of us live lives of privilege. Surprise!

Working a shit job with no way to retire or to stop having to work 60 hours a week when your body is killing you, when you could move somewhere where you could afford to buy a small place and stop paying rent so you could work less or retire makes you a fucking refugee.

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The only good American I’ve ever interacted with was a black expat english teacher who literally made our class watched a :sankara-shining: documentary

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