there’s biological drives for a lot of things but we can occasionally control ourselves.
ok but should we I have biological drives to drink when I’m thirsty and have no duty not to follow them. I don’t accept that having kids is wrong because the anti-natalist argument heavily relies on the idea that suffering is real and matters but pleasure isn’t and doesn’t which is just ridiculous
that’s a misunderstanding or misrepresentation. Pleasure is real but it doesn’t negate suffering.
no amount of future pleasure can make up for what i’ve suffered, and i reject the idea that any amount of suffering or pleasure are interchangeable like a math equation.
it’s not moral to put someone in a situation where they will be harmed without their consent. it doesn’t suddenly become OK to lead someone to harm or cause them harm just because you give them pleasurable things later.
mate what you have suffered which I am truly sorry for by the way is not a universal experience and thus is not applicable to a general case.
Suffering is real but it is not the only real thing and to focus on suffering to the exclusion of all else is unhealthy and reductive
