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If you’re managing pain with it, obv try to speak with a pain management specialist about it if possible.
Addiction is a fuck and you don’t want to be keeping well while trying to get well.

Idk about long term/habitual use (I can imagine you’d soon need a field to supply yourself longer than a week), but the humble poppy is the way to go tbh

I know nothing about kratom beyond it being a cessation/alternative tool for opiate use, but like, just use opiates? It cooks down easy, you don’t need to mess with isolating and acetylising anything if you don’t want to, and you know it’ll work

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:stalin-approval:

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Poppies are definitely more reliable than kratom for getting you high and they don’t have the stimulant effect that can make kratom more… unpredictable. But I would not suggest someone start with poppies over kratom. The main alkaloid you’re getting in poppy pods (or seeds) is straight up morphine. Poppies are going to be stronger in general, they’re going to get a person addicted more easily because you can always just take more to get higher or overcome your build up of tolerance while kratom essentially has a ceiling where after a certain amount, more isn’t going to do anything but literally make you vomit. And because of that last part, most importantly, it’s almost impossible to OD on kratom. That’s not the case with poppies because they don’t have that ceiling and it’s impossible to know how much morphine you’re actually getting when doing poppies.

I have lots of experience with both as well as with harder things.

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Yeah and you don’t want to get newer pharmaceutical/high thebaine poppies. I generally work on a 1:10-1:15 estimate for morphine content from the dried latex, to taste of course. It’s a biannual thing for me only so small scale works fine, but yes the road is fraught with dangers

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Sounds like you have it worked out really well. And yeah if you’re using the latex that’s going to be way more consistent and reliable for dose than would be grinding the whole pod and/or using seeds which is usually how I’d do it. If you’re going with straight latex, I personally would just call that opium. (I didn’t have access to the pods I used while they were growing, so I couldn’t go and scar them. When I started with pods it was back during the “floral arrangements” heyday on ebay).

That’s awesome you use them only biannually. I think that’s the way to do it when it comes to recreation.

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