I hear a lot of people talk about how we need to look at religion from a materialist lens and that religion is incomparable with socialism. But I think we need to seperate the two. Religion is about the metaphysical so it’s hard to look at it from a materialist lens. While politics deals with materialist matters, so it’s necessary to view it with a materialist lens. And it’s not like atheism is fully materialist either, with ‘nothing after death’, and ‘universe starting without a god’ being metaphysical explanations as well. And humans are naturally spiritual and to deny that, makes it harder for socialism to be accepted by people. But of course that doesn’t mean we should tolerate the reactionary aspects of religion. We should combat it whenever necessary.

What’s your opinion?

You are viewing a single thread.
View all comments View context
3 points

But there’s also no proof that god doesn’t exist, so the actual materialist thing to do is to be agnostic

But humans ARE naturally spiritual, spirituality literally goes back tens of thousands of years, and maybe even longer. And this was before hierarchy existed.

permalink
report
parent
reply
15 points

there’s also no proof that god doesn’t exist

that’s not how proof works.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

But we are talking about the beginning of the universe, something that we don’t understand yet. So in that way the existence of god, and god not existing are both metaphysical explanations

permalink
report
parent
reply
15 points

I don’t see how an event that took place billions of years ago has any bearing on human politics. Or why a gap in knowledge is the same as belief in divinity in your eyes.

permalink
report
parent
reply

something that we don’t understand yet

Are you saying your god is only as powerful as the gaps in human knowledge?

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points
*
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

In that case christians who are open to the idea of being wrong are also agnostic. You could use agnostic as an adjective to atheism, but I believe agnostic, as a noun, is the way to be truly materialist

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points
*
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply

Comradeship // Freechat

!comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

Create post

Talk about whatever, respecting the rules established by Lemmygrad. Failing to comply with the rules will grant you a few warnings, insisting on breaking them will grant you a beautiful shiny banwall.

A community for comrades to chat and talk about whatever doesn’t fit other communities

Community stats

  • 8

    Monthly active users

  • 1.4K

    Posts

  • 15K

    Comments

Community moderators