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Force may have been a method to maintain the capitalist system once but in modern times it’s division and complacency.

You are ignoring the immense weight of the threat of force

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No, it exists but it’s just almost never needed we ended up enforcing the system ourselves, no threat needed even if it exists as a backup.

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I think you might be biased by your own experiences from places where the risk and reward for following vs breaking the law are so wildly in favor of following it. In poorer areas, the math gets closer.

Anyway, try mugging someone at gunpoint and telling them it was like you didn’t have a gun because you never fired it.

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I’m not from a country that’s rich enough to have rich areas. No American style suburbs here thankfully.

The main disincentive is still societal even if you are talking just about shoplifting(Though I was mostly talking about private property). Cops will just arrest you but if you get a criminal record you will have a harder time finding a job, people will not trust you and your family may even disown you.

I understand that system is leagues more fucked up in the US where the cops will just shoot you if you’re darker than mayonnaise, 3 insignificant crimes get you serious jail time and every sentence is normal amount of years times ten but it’s a uniquely bad system there and not a reflection of the rest of the world and in the rest of the world the threat of violence is generally not there and we perpetuate this system. You guys also have absolutely insane wealth differences and like no way to even do anything about it, Americans should really take pointers from the French and organize a proper general strike, nothing will change if people just complain.

Also your analogy would be more accurate if I mugged someone with a toy gun. As I said cops aren’t as powerful as the whole of the working class.

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