I do think that extremism is counter-productive, it uses fallacious arguments and generally only generates more violence.
Extremists get shit done. When was the last time voting ever solved anything?
It regularly does, social-democracy seems to generally ensure better living condition to its people. I donât see any extreme left or right regime that provided better conditions than social-democracies.
âBetter conditions than social-democraciesâ is a tall order considering that most (every?) Marxist-Leninist state was formed in impoverished, exploited countries, and have frequently been targeted by sanctions, boycotts, and so on. If you told a Chinese peasant in the 40âs that their countryâs life expectancy would someday exceed that of the US, theyâd call you a liar. Certainly it wasnât about to happen under the Nationalists or anybody else.
Not everyone is allowed to have social democracy. For example, Norwayâs economy benefits greatly from their oil revenues, but in much of the world, the presence of oil resources is called an âoil curse,â because Western governments destabilize and overthrow governments that bring those profits back to the people. When Iranâs left-leaning (but not communist) government in the 50âs tried to reclaim control of their oil from their British colonial overlords, the CIA did a coup and installed a fascist. There are countless other stories of this happening all around the world.
No country has lifted more people out of poverty and extreme poverty than China. Granting developing countries a second option for investment is an enormous boon for the world, especially since China is much less restrictive over other countriesâ domestic economic policies compared to the IMF.
This is why I would argue that, even if you disagree with Chinaâs system, if you want any other system besides capitalism to be available to people in the developing world, then you should recognize that China is furthering that goal. I donât consider Chinaâs system to be perfect or ideal by any stretch of the imagination, but Iâve read enough history to see more ideal systems get crushed time and again.
Do social democracies also ensure better living conditions for the impoverished nations they continue to exploit so they can support their own standards of living?
I donât see any extreme left or right regime that provided better conditions than social-democracies.
Iâm not sure what you define as an âextreme regimeâ but you can try looking at Cuba, China, or the USSR, for starters.
but violence has already been generated against us, why is it bad when we use it to end that violence?
Because instead we can spend the energy into the development of social-democracy, which has a better track record.
Because instead we can spend the energy into the development of social-democracy, which has a better track record.
Social Democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism, so no. I donât accept such imperialist half measures
