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the thing is; left unity doesn’t necessarily mean working in lock step. let the M-L’s do what the M-L’s are best at. let the anarchists do what the anarchists are best at. as long as we’re all putting fascists up against walls, what’s the actual fucking problem?

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Well, a single party is a tactic. Anarchists can’t scale up to a national level without organization, and at that point they aren’t really anarchists.

Ultimately we should work parallel to one another and maybe even adopt each other’s tactics. There’s a lot MLs can learn from Anarchists on direct action, for example

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The difficulty with left unity is that there’s no guarantee that people that step out of line wont suffer repercussions.

Basically anarchists are rightly afraid that MLs in power would mean persecution of anarchists. Same would be said of other marxists currents.

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In earlier decades, I would’ve agreed. But the magnitude of what’s ahead of us is going to require a complete restructuring of entire global supply chains.

I’m not making a tendency argument here, but there is an unquestionable need to do something massive, and quickly. Not only is that gonna require us, it’s going to require, globally, hundreds of millions of people who currently don’t agree with any of our tendencies.

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i think we all believe in good logistics. I think redundancy and creating local independent infrastructure is as important as creating fun massive soviet style bullshit. and possibly more efficient in many cases.

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I’m not sure you understand the extent to which Neoliberalism has completely reshaped production.

Even if your goal was to create mostly autonomous regions with independent infrastructure, which is anti socialist to some extent (what obligations do they have to the global proletariat now?), it would take decades of central planning to reach that point. We’re just nowhere near it.

Think about like the average car. It has components from easily like a dozen countries, and those components come from a dozen countries of their own. Even the final parts aren’t made and assembled in the same place. How could you possibly localize that? The knowledge transfers alone would require higher organization. Let alone the investment, construction, training, etc.

This is not about recreating the Soviet system, but realizing that any left project going forward has to be very big and very serious, or it will just essentially be adapting left aesthetics to climate apocalypse, and be wiped out by the likely Feudal dialectic that emerges from that.

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