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Lol am i supposed to start a bombing campaing? Or should i start a trot/leftcom/anarchist etc. party? Even if i wanted to its not enough to change how state power is perceived when even the so called commies think these institutions are legimate and if just the right peopel were in charge then we could finally get rid of capitalism. Why does China have landlords? because they provide immediate value for the people? Why did ussr fall?

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You start from material reality just as all the other anarchists/Marxists have before you.

I don’t care about your opinion on other countries.

Put your revolutionary theory into practice and produce a successful revolution. Hell if you do it without authoritarianism I’ll become a /c/ProductiveForces-ism over night and I’ll be in nonstop contact trying to tease out exactly how you produced this revolution so I could hopefully follow your path

I have faith in you to blaze this trail and lead the tankies out of the dark, confused muddle we’ve been in since 1991

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The material reality is that your authoritarian ideas about socialism dont work. Are you going to call Venezuela, China, DPRK or Ussr socialist states that are run by THE PROLETARIAT

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The material reality is that your authoritarian ideas about socialism dont work.

Do you know what “material reality” means? Because by definition they exist so they do obviously work.

Anarchism has never existed in material reality except in the form of the Dictatorship of the Proletariat (That’s not a criticism, it’s the correct revolutionary path) except they named the DOTP to something like “The Anarchist Regional Revolutionary Council” because anarchists think when they change the names of things they change the things themselves (which are just as authoritarian as anything tankies do: Anarchists outlaw newspapers not owned by them, have a monopoly on violence, secret police, smmary executiosn of counter revolutionaries, a penal system etc.)

But you hold the correct revolutionary ideas so produce a revolution in your own country then we can talk

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that’s not what material reality means

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the so called commies think these institutions are legimate and if just the right peopel were in charge then we could finally get rid of capitalism

literally the opposite of what Marx and Lenin said

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Why didthe soviet union fall if it was controlled by the workers?

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