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you just create a story about how it was actually not an LGBT center, but rather an undercover CIA spy center

Lol, lmao. Deeply unserious liberals either truly don’t understand (or just support) the extent to which their Empire subjugates, interferes and attempts to destroy other nations because of ideology and geopolitics. You have no idea how evil the US empire is, and what it does to maintain it’s brutal hegemony over the rest of the developing world.

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I know that powerful governments operate various illegal places in other countries to serve their needs. China even admitted operating some illegal “police stations” in my country after they shut those down themselfs, and I have no doubts taht the USA does similar things. However, I haven’t found any sources about this place being operated by US government. Maybe I’m bad at research, but no one from those claiming it was that provided any source either. The person in the second screenshot even says that they’re just guessing. When I see my government, or US government, or the EU, do some bullshit, I don’t immediately start thinking about how it was actually a move to defend from Chinese or Russian forces.

It’s was the same in the thread I mentioned about China blocking access to lemmy.ml: there were definitely even some hexbear users criticizing China’s censorship, but there were also multiple tankies writing essays about how the censoring is actually necessary because of capitalist propaganda (is lemmy.ml an US propaganda website?) and just doing all sorts of mental gymnastics to justify it. I know I’m using the words “mental gymnastics” too much now, but I just can’t see any better naming for some of the comments out there. So, it’s not just about this particular LGBT center, it’s about this mentality of trying to come up with any reason of why the (usually Chinese) government is actually doing good thing. Isn’t that the ultimate win of propaganda, when people no longer need government to falsely justify it’s actions, because they do the justification themselves?

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China even admitted operating some illegal “police stations” in my country after they shut those down themselfs

Lol

When I see my government, or US government, or the EU, do some bullshit, I don’t immediately start thinking about how it was actually a move to defend from Chinese or Russian forces.

Honestly I don’t believe you, I see it all the time, liberals constantly defending US imperialism in the name of stopping RuZZians or the evil Chinese commies.

So, it’s not just about this particular LGBT center, it’s about this mentality of trying to come up with any reason of why the (usually Chinese) government is actually doing good thing.

Oh I’m sorry, is finding a reason for a given action now explicit 100% support of said government’s actions? Most of the time, yes, China is correct in blocking US interference, because they’re one of the remaining socialist nations who, after being opened up with American help, is now being backstabbed and made out to be the enemy by the US political class. The reason why we “defend” these nations and many decisions they make is explicitly because (a) they’re one of the remaining Actually Existing Socialist states left, (b) often, these countries are blockaded, or are active enemies and targets of Western political propaganda which means the news/media/social media is geared towards misinformation, disinformation and fake news on AES states. Because of this, us explaining how something isn’t true is always met with the response that we’re Russian or Chinese bots, because everyone has to believe in liberalism/conservatism and the superiority of Western Civilization™ and nothing else.

Isn’t that the ultimate win of propaganda, when people no longer need government to falsely justify it’s actions, because they do the justification themselves?

Isn’t it the ultimate win of propaganda when the population believes they’re not propagandised?

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Who the fuck cares if China censors Lemmy? You fucks pretend like VPNs are not a common thing in China. If people want to get here, they will find a way.

It’s not a good or bad thing, it just doesn’t particularly matter.

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China is heavily censoring internet and you fucks pretend that it’s actually a good thing. If they’re living so well you all pretend, they would clearly see all those western propaganda articles lying about them and not believe them.

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