It stops being a “discussion” when one side ignores evidence and arguments that illustrate the answers to their questions. The rule says “Engage in good-faith and with respect!” so the civility rule was broken by the mod before AntiOutsideAktion called the mod names.

Kindness doesn’t fix idiots. Respect is earned. Bullying works. If people aren’t called stupid for saying stupid things they will keep saying stupid things until they become stupid people. Being kind and civil is just enabling stupid people to have stupid ideas and stupid ideas can become dangerous easily.

Propping up a fascist government with money enabling it to force more involuntary conscripts to die in the hopes that someone will come save them when nobody will is a fucking stupid idea. That stupid idea is getting men killed as we speak and “civility” was a big part of how we got here. If Putin had been less civil and invaded the moment he realized ukraine had been taken over by nazis, the nazis wouldn’t have had 9 years to train. Instead Putin tried to negotiate with nato and ukraine and they lied to him and built up their army and prepared to ethnic cleanse Donbas.