Literally no concept of the ideas of “races”

People had concepts of different ethnicities and reasons for subjegating, persecuting, and enslaving them before race science was invented. Utterly ahistorical to believe otherwise

I never said people should not know the history and origins of white supremacism. What I am saying is people aren’t going to give much of a shit about ending “racism” if you whittle it down to just “race science based persecution”. They still want the persecution to end. If you get rid of the current ideological framework but don’t address the underlying causes then another framework will re emerge.

This is an exercise in being able to relate to other people and not being an ivory tower pedant. If you told someone oppressed by racism that racism has ended but their oppression still remained they’ll be perfectly justified to give you a beat down.

Do you believe that racial categories are biologically or metaphysically “real”. I’m not talking about social constructs,

All racial categories are social constructs. And all of these social constructs are biologically “real”. If I want I can create an arbitrary “American” race which is composed of all citizens of America at this very second.

It would require a dataset of 300 million citizen genomes, but assuming we have lightning-fast PCR, I can test any person to check if they’re “racially American”. And that American race would be like 60% white 12% black etc.

The way to eliminate racism is to first right these wrongs, create a true equality between the fake racial categories - that means equality of lived existence and material conditions, not just abstract rights. Only once these things are righted, communism worked towards, can racism begin to wither.

Yes

I’m not denying the social reality of racial categories, I’m pointing to the exact moment they were constructed and pointing to all the material harm done along these lines. The point is to destroy these categories and create true equality.

There is no exact moment, because the cognizance of those categories was always there to some extent as long as the people were observed. For example in ancient Greece, some guy recorded that South Indians were darker than North Indians. It’s an obvious physical difference.

The boundaries are also constantly shifting as the “bosses” change. Right now we live in mayo boss world, but there used to be an Arab boss world. There are accounts from Moor Spain where white guys wanted to darken up to look more “tough” and “noble”. An Arab supremacist structure would persecute blonde/blue whites but not the brunettes (because they can pass as Arab). Just as a Euro supremacist structure persecutes darker skinned Arabs but not the light skinned ones (because they can pass as white).

Moral idealists who proclaim that all racist people are evil in the core of their soul

Some racist people are truly evil in the core of their soul

Some aren’t, and are just being “NPC” cattle skinner boxes of Garbage-in-garbage-out (seeing the effects of having half a planet’s worth of wealth concentrated in 10% of the population, and thinking “white superior”, without actually analyzing or understanding anything about why this reality exists)