Theres enough racist people that hes a candidate

Thats it, lets stop putting our heads in the sand with ‘economic anxiety’

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No I define racism as prejudice based of the system of racialism, which was invented in the 17th century.

Other forms of sectarian prejudice existed beforehand. Not racism

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the system of racialism, which was invented in the 17th century.

And that’s somehow not White Supremacism?

Other forms of sectarian prejudice existed beforehand. Not racism

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Not my fault you don’t know the historical literature and are redefining clearly defined words

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“Its not racism without race science” is meaningless pedantry. If we accept your definitions then the broader topic of “sectarian prejudice” is the greater issue than your narrow definition to the current flavor of “sectarian prejudice”. Your prioritizing dealing with racism as an ideology and not dealing with its material causes.

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racism didn’t exist before the 1600s

lol

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The concept of race as a categorization of anatomically modern humans (Homo sapiens) has an extensive history in Europe and the Americas. The contemporary word race itself is modern; historically it was used in the sense of “nation, ethnic group” during the 16th to 19th centuries. Race acquired its modern meaning in the field of physical anthropology through scientific racism starting in the 19th century. With the rise of modern genetics, the concept of distinct human races in a biological sense has become obsolete.

So do you believe skin color phenotypes actually adheres to racial categories? Because that’s what racialism is, and saying that melanin levels determine a biological race is outdated pseudoscience that came out of the US and Europe in the 16th to 18th centuries.

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So do you believe skin color phenotypes actually adheres to racial categories?

Yes, I think that dark skin is associated with being socially recognized as “Black” or “Brown”.

Your argument is the equivalent of saying continents didn’t exist before 1890. I am a physical realist, I believe that things physically exist (because they do), even if someone wasn’t there to properly document them at the time of existence.

and saying that melanin levels determine a biological race

Yes, Africans and Australians (real ones not mayos) have the same skin color but are totally different races on a genetic level. Racism is mostly not about genetics (although a minority of nerds will take it to that level). Yes, modern white racism is irrational on genetic grounds, but it is still real and existent, just like many modern beliefs today (people eat pigs but not dogs, which are further way from our species). I’m sure many ancient forms of racism were “irrational” too.

None of this matters because 99.999999999999% of the cattle out there being racist could not name a single ethnicity or language from Southeast Asia, India, Africa, or otherwise. Almost none of it has anything to do with science. The literal fucking global temperature has increased by 4 C or something and people still don’t believe in global warming, why would biological race be even remotely relevant to anything?

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