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Was it not? I’m genuinely asking cause idk the history that well, but is Tibet not an independent people group/distinct cultural region that was at some point conquered by China?

Edit: bruh I stan China on a daily basis and I still get downvoted for asking a sincere question lol

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I mean, Tibet was conquered by Chinese dynasties a few times in the past dozen centuries and so it’s been a part of the dominant one on and off over those years, but so have many other parts of China, such as the Taklamakan basin and Sichuan basin as well as their respective surrounding mountain ranges, Mongolia, Eastern Siberia, Yunnan (which used to be the independant kingdom of Dali). That doesnt make Tibet colonized, though. Being conquered does not make you colonized. Colonization implies resource extraction, underdevelopment, replacement of the native population, etc. Being a different ethnicity or belonging to a different cultural region also doesn’t cut it, as China is and has always been multiethnic and multicultural, as have been literally most if not all States from the dawn of civilization itself to basically the 19th century when the romantic ideal of the nation-state pushed European countries to unify their citizens under a single identity linguistic, cultural and ethnic identity, something China hasn’t done.

Edit: Oh yeah, and Communist China having ‘conquered’ Tibet is kind of a huge stretch. Tibet was part of the Qing Dynasty and only became an independant, theocratic, feudal country because of British support. When the Communists tookTibet, the Tibetan serfs thanked them as liberators, not as conquerors. Really, only the Monastic land-owning class was angry about it and fled the area a decade later, not because of any real persecution of the Tibetan people, but because they couldnt stand not being the rulers of the country anymore, much like Cuban gusanos.

Mao took away their serfs!

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According to your own definition china was not colonized by Britain lmfao, when china stans are so delusional they self own is my favorite bit

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Colonization implies resource extraction

Huhhhh

Edit: TBH I should’ve written capital extraction, instead of resources, but eh

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tibet was mostly considered a part of china on and off for like the past 400 years

Tibet was part of the Qing dynasty from 1720 after it had been taken over by the Khoshut Khanate in 1640 and then the Dzungar Khanate, after which it had entered in an agreement with the Qing dynasty who had driven out the invading Dzungars. Previously Tibet had been considered an independent state after the Yuan who conquered Tibet for about 100 years were defeated by the Ming and driven out of the region in 1355. During those 300 years is really the only time since after the 9th century when the Tibetan empire fell that Tibet could be considered an independent state, though its relations with the Ming dynasty during that time is also complicated as it was a tributary state considered by scholars as part of the Ming empire but the exact relation is debated enough that most consider Tibet to have been largely independent during that time. I dont think you could say modern Tibet was colonized in any sense of the word though, it was never settled by Chinese dynasties and it was given large internal autonomy. People like to compare it to Ireland but its not really an apt comparison imo even after Tibet became part of the Qing dynasty.

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Tibet was a client state of the Qing dynasty. There’s a reason your referring to the area of Tibet as Tibet instead of South West China. Tibet has a unique culture that differs greatly from Han Chinese culture. It’s like saying Vietnam should be part of China because they have historical claim over the land.

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The history is somewhat complex and there had been times during which Tibet was an empire up until the 9th century after which it splintered, was then part of different Mongol and Chinese dynasties and at times a vessel state and semi autonomous in certain ways. To say the PRC colonized Tibet in 1950 is certainly wrong though, and today Tibet is one of 5 autonomous regions in China which grants it certain autonomy over particular internal matters. Tibet is also 90% ethnic Tibetans and 80% Buddhist.

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