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My prediction? The Patriot party will be a huge success almost immediately, thanks in large part to a profusion of big money donors. The old republican party will collapse under the split, with democrats absorbing the neocon wing of the republican party. This will shift the democrats even further to the right, making them even more into a party with no constituency.

Within 10 years, the Patriot party will be in charge permanently. sicko-no.png

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And we’ll have a two party system with two right wing parties just like fucking Poland. :poland-cool:

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We already do, one of them will just be openly fascist.

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Poland has a multiparty system with 10 or so right wing parties.

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democrats absorbing the neocon wing of the republican party

No way. Liz Cheney (who IMO embodies this anti-trump neo-con alternative within the Republican Party) hates Trump; But they hate the Democrats more. A more likely alternative is the Republicans being held together by a barely functional alliance of hating both the Democrats and the Patriot Party.

Hell they might rebrand as some sort of ‘Moderate’ Party and steal some Blue Dogs.

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Isn’t this just the Lib Dems being squeezed out by the Labour and Conservative parties in the UK? In this analogy, Labour is Democrats, Lib Dem is old GOP, Conservative is Patriot Party.

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Australia changed from FPTP because a new conservative party split the conservative party vote.

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Just to clarify the Republicans didn’t kill the Whigs. The Whig party imploded from internal conflict and the Republicans rose from the ashes. The Whigs and Republicans never really ran against each other. That being said the game theory modeling does point to a degeneration to a two party system over the long term in a FPTP system.

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thanks in large part to a profusion of big money donors

Nah see, I think the money in the GOP is gonna fall in line hard with the NeverTrump crowd.

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100%. Donors prefer ‘stable’ Republicans like Bush. They’ll only go for Trump third party if he actually starts to overtake republicans.

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Did you just say a party that gets the most votes has no constituency?

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The only way this does anything is if they run a candidate for president. Any of them that make it into congress will vote with the Republicans 100% of the time.

Honestly I can really only see this as a huge opportunity for the left to do the same. If they run a presidential candidate, it will be harder to shun the left if we were to run a third (fourth?) party candidate in the general.

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This is exactly what will happen, and why there is no time left to wait for the revolutionary left to coalesce into a unified party formation of its own.

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The Patriot party will be a huge success almost immediately, thanks in large part to a profusion of big money donors.

Unironically, this Third Way shit has been an idea in Washington that’s been looking for viability for decades now. Trump will do the Koch thing, but because his base will be evangelical white nationalists rather than NABLA sickos and John Birch dead-enders, it’ll gain far more traction early on.

Within 10 years, the Patriot party will be in charge permanently.

More skeptical of this, because the new party will be absolutely riddled with scammers. In 10 years, if its still standing, it’ll only be thanks to a leader with a longer eye to the future than Donny Don’t-Pay.

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