All the time I hear about “the CIA will coup this”, “America supported that”, “These people opposed US Imperialism”. A topic could have absolutely nothing to do with america and involve a place on the exact opposite part of the earth and Americans will find a way to make it about America. For example, people talk about Russian politics and Putin yet seem to support Putin wholeheartedly because his Russia “opposes american imperialism”. This framing of the conversation seemingly ignoring how Russian people feel about his reign, how the EU has been having to drag america into the latest sanctions against Russia, and how for the last 4 years America had an ostensibly Pro-Russian president. I swear American Leftists don’t care at all about Capitalism or Communism and just want to oppose the United States. Most of the world and people don’t care about American influence, let alone to such an obsessive degree.
Russia had a revolution ergo America will/could have one isnt a materialist view of the situation it’s not logical, their conditions are completely different especially considering America being a bourgeois country founded by a bourgeois revolution and has always throughout its history taken its function to be serving its bourgeois interests over any others.
No one thinks it’s a hopeless backwater country that will eternally oppose communism, it’s the hopeless seat of global capital. All of its material interests are aligned to fight communism in every way. Nothing has ever fought communism as hard as America has and it has funded and has ties to every anti-communist movement precisely bc its material interests lead it to do so.
The history of its (white) populace has strained to find their place in the labor aristocracy and in petit-bourgeois privilege afforded to them by the world wide imperialist theft it has done since it was barely out of its infancy. even its socialists and communists have been guilty of this western/American white chauvinism as recently as the iww in the 20th century and right up to today.
The amount of Americans that have any degree of class consciousness and have a healthy amount of intersectionality and anti-imperialism/chauvinism in their analysis is vanishingly small. The overwhelming majority of Americans, be they liberal, conservatives and a high degree of even leftist (white leftists in America have a history of selling out their poc comrades for petty privileges and even stealing their jobs in the days where that was easier to do without real backlash) do not fit this mold and are unlikely to be able to for a multitude of factors including propaganda, racism, global class interests (i.e. our benefit from the theft of imperialist theft), chauvinism taught to us, and myriad other factors
I suggest settlers for a good history of America’s failing to attain any kind of revolutionary fervor and how it has sacrificed its principles for petit-bourgeois privilege all through its history, it goes from the earliest days of colonization to near present day.
As far as discussion being to centered on it, well we definitely are entirely too Euro/Anglocentric in the west in general but we are unfortunately going to have to talk about the us a lot being as, again, it is the seat of global capital’s imperialist forces, it’s unavoidable for most discussions. They make themselves involved everywhere
the “seat of global capital” whatever that means used to be the united kingdom and it didn’t have much issue moving over to the united states and won’t have issue moving over to the next country when the time comes. if the United States were “the seat of global capital’s imperialist forces” the seat would just move to the next country. But all that is just pseudo-marxist drivel. The American state only protects american capital like any other state protects its own capital.
Famous socialist country the Uk lol.
All other capitalist countries, including the Uk, capitulate to America’s interests bc of America’s status as the prime seat of capital and bc they benefit from it.
None of that is “pseudo-Marxist drivel” it’s just the fact of the world as it is. Everything I said is the result of circumstances in America, you can deny that it exists bc you want to hope real bad for what you want America to be but it doesn’t change the material reality or historical facts.
Your view of it is moralist nonsense based on nothing but gut reactions and tenuous connections you’ve made on surface level pattern recognition.
I’m not saying that because these things are facts it means we shouldn’t personally strive to make our community better in America but understanding them and using them to keep from repeating the mistakes we have throughout history is vital (I proselytize communism to everyone who will listen in the way I think they’ll be receptive, I volunteer and do what else I can in the face of it). And it does mean that America is astronomically unlikely to develop into anything given its history and its status as a country , we’ve fumbled it every time and there’s a reason for it and it isn’t just that you hadn’t come along yet to tell everyone America can have a good revolution finally actually.
Seriously read settlers, at least it’ll help you see some of the history of the country from a non-capitalist apologia POV and fills in a lot of the holes.
“just the fact of the world as it is” is just pseudo-materialism. most of what you say is just left-wing american exceptionalism
