I can’t go TKL. I need the numpad but don’t want a separate one. Working in commercial lending in type a lot of numbers doing financial analysis. I was between the Q5 Pro and the Zoom 98 but that wouldn’t ship until Q1 and I can’t wait that long.

Although i like the numpad, the wasd + mouse position (which i use even in work a lot) hurts my arms because of my small build. So its either separate numpad or none at all

Nothing wrong with a full-size keyboard, but “mini keyboards” didn’t really target “gamers” at all at first. Most of the OG 60% keyboards like the KNC Poker weren’t marketed towards gamers, and most still aren’t (though they certainly work well for gaming use).

Not sure how they are “useless”, you can be as productive or more productive compared to a full-size keyboard if it suits you.

https://a.aliexpress.com/_msFKZTe - Here’s the link if interested. They do have some slight flaws where the right arrow seems slightly off. I can post a close up if wanted. But for under $20. They got here in 10 days too.

The Zoom98 might be cheaper if you can wait. I debated between this, the Zoom98 and the James Donkey RS2 v2 but decided against the James Donkey because I wanted a metal case. I’m spending more than I would on the keyboard, I wanted a durable build.