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“When your enemies are credibly accusing each other of genocide do not interrupt them.” -Sun Tzu

That said, whenever the US starts beating the human rights drum, usually something bad is down the pipeline.

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I don’t think this is really part of any sort of bigger plan. I think it’s one of those dumb impulsive things Biden has a habit of doing.

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Trying to do Regime Change in Turkey would be slightly more idiotic than trying to do it in N.Korea, atm.

Erodgan sucks, but his base remains fiercely loyal. He’s not a guy you can just make go away. He’s also sitting at the crossroads of the Euro-asian continent, single-handedly backstopping a flood of war and climate refugees into hyper-xenophobic proto-fascist Eastern Europe. Kicking him over would send dominoes flying across three continents. It would be the beginning of decades of chaos and bloodshed, easily rivaling the mess we created in Iraq.

But after our efforts in Libya, Syria, Egypt, and Yemen, I’m honestly not clear if this would be a bug or a feature in the eyes of Pentagon leadership.

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By the way, Armenians were probably the most affected but not the only victims of genocide. Assyrians and Pontic Greeks were also murdered or mass deported at around the same time. My great grandparents were pontics from Trabzon and came to Greece as refugees, so I always felt some kind of weird lingering feeling of nostalgia or bitterness in the family about this. It sucks that this stuff still damages the relation between our countries to this day but I understand it to some extent.

Ironically the nationalists here treated Pontic refugees horribly, to the extent that “pontios” became slang for “idiot”, and yet it’s still the nationalists who pretend to care so much, as is typical.

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Gonna be real with you, I dont know anything about Turkey and I will never know, but the shit the nationalists post is kinda funny in a horrible twisted way

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I’m Turkish myself, and I can assure you, no matter how funny you think this is, it is 10 times funnier to me than you. So laugh away.

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Thanke you

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Internet nationalists are funny, but turkish nationalists in particular are very amusing.

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Oh boy, wait until you meet Iranian “Nationalists.”

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