I was all into electoralism up until the 1-2 punch of Corbyn and Bernie getting screwed (and just straight up losing) within the span of 2 months. From there I thought electoralism still had it’s place but was thinking more about how we’ll never get to “vote” for socialism, and started leaning towards being an ML. And then recently, I’m just really down on the hope for any sort of internal change within the imperial core. I think change is going to have to be forced upon the global north by the global south. And even though Iive in the US, I just feel more and more disconnected from this place. I find I’m way more interested in what’s going on in places like Cuba, China, Good Korea, Peru, Bolivia, India, etc. I find myself not even really caring about US politics except for when it comes to issues of foreign policy.

And in my observation, it feels like a lot of comrades here seem to be following this trajectory.

Of course as I move along this path, I still don’t seem to have a really good feel on what I’m supposed to do, you know?

42 points

When change is forced upon the global north, it will still be an internal change, just one triggered by external conditions. And that internal change, whenever it happens, will need local principled and organized communists. So, the thing to do is the same as always, educate yourself and others, agitate, organize.

permalink
report
reply
23 points
*

This is really good, because as a white person in the global north, while I agree with third worldism it can also make me feel kinda useless.

permalink
report
parent
reply
14 points

idk shit really but does it make sense to think in terms of “ml in the global south, mutual aid in the imperial core”?

permalink
report
parent
reply

as someone who generally identifies as an anarchist because i’m living in the imperial core under the watchful gaze of the panopticon, yes, i am also a third world maoist

permalink
report
parent
reply
10 points
*

Someone has to drive towards balkanization and also organize mutual aid groups to support those in need. I get that feeling of helplessness, but thankfully there is very real work to be done in the core.

permalink
report
parent
reply

if you want to do a revolution then why would you want to force balkanization, it would just make it easier for reaction.

permalink
report
parent
reply
19 points
*

ahhhnold voice : I’M YOU AND YOU’RE ME AND YOU’RE ME AND I’M YOU

My trajectory over the last five or so years:

Liberal -> progressive -> democratic socialist -> Trotskyist -> ML -> MLM -> Dengist / all my socialist heroes are 70% right 30% wrong (even Trotsky was good until the Civil War ended).

As for third worldism, yeah, seeing white workers not wearing masks at the supermarket will do that to you.

permalink
report
reply
21 points
*

even Trotsky was good until the Civil War ended

I think Trot jokes are funny but also we only hurt ourselves if we completely ignore Trotsky’s contributions or pretend like he had zero good ideas.

permalink
report
parent
reply

Guy organized the Red Army into a seriously powerful force, defeated the entire Entente, and did it all from a super cool armored train. Plus he was a Menshevik who realized “oh shit the Bolsheviks are actually going to do it, time to join them” in a show of left unity somewhat rare historically. Lenin trusted the hell out of him and his role in both 1905 and 1917 can’t be denied. Fell of the wagon later, sure, but he was and will be an important figure on the left. Plus I love his history of the Russian Revolution, great piece of writing.

permalink
report
parent
reply

Not to mention being chairman of the St. Petersburg Soviet. And also, at least according to Ten Days that Shook the World, being in every single meeting to dunk on people

permalink
report
parent
reply
19 points

Makes me wonder if future generations will have to go through the same cycle

:this-is-fine: :flattened-bernie: :doomjak:

permalink
report
reply

only if we fail to pass on our memory to them. The only reason we had to learn this shit the hard way is because political education happens through dem or gop aligned sources.

permalink
report
parent
reply

Yeah back in like 2017 or so I was a le Nordic Socialism type lib guy then hey this isn’t real socialism, real socialism is a hell of a lot better, to please win Bernie you’re harm reduction to the global south must rise up and crush the north where I’m sitting at today.

permalink
report
reply

Check this lib. Try eco-posadist.

permalink
report
reply

askchapo

!askchapo@hexbear.net

Create post

Ask Hexbear is the place to ask and answer thought-provoking questions.

Rules:

  1. Posts must ask a question.

  2. If the question asked is serious, answer seriously.

  3. Questions where you want to learn more about socialism are allowed, but questions in bad faith are not.

  4. Try !feedback@hexbear.net if you’re having questions about regarding moderation, site policy, the site itself, development, volunteering or the mod team.

Community stats

  • 125

    Monthly active users

  • 7.3K

    Posts

  • 164K

    Comments