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democrats attempt a strategy other than scolding challenge [impossible]

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I’m old enough to remember a guy running around the country promising “Hope” and “Change”, claiming that we need a popular people-powered revolution to bring about sweeping economic reforms, and advocating for a large grass-roots organization to overturn a stagnant and deteriorating national regime.

That guy was absolutely full of shit and walked away from all the cool rhetoric as soon as he was sworn in (twice, because god forbid some bow-tie nerd question whether you followed the rules). But fuck, it was fun to believe better things were actually possible.

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the thing i remember is believing he was genuine right up until the moment he nominated biden for vp. i held out hope for a little while that it was a ploy to manipulate party leadership, and then he just never closed guantanamo, and started bombing weddings and hospitals and pine nut farmers. but i recall a solid couple of weeks i thought things could turn around.

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Back in 2008, I honestly had no idea why Biden’s nomination was significant. He looked like a sop to the centrists rather than a broker for the plutocrats. In retrospect, I probably should have known better. But I was high on that “Anybody But Bush” drug, and Obama seemed like a far more attractive option than Clinton (nevermind McCain). So Biden didn’t bother me until much later on.

he just never closed guantanamo, and started bombing weddings and hospitals and pine nut farmers

Yeah. The Gitmo thing in particular was just so nauseating. After all that Unitary Executive bullshit Bush had employed with abandon, it seemed downright trivial for a decent human being with Presidential authority to finally lance and drain that shameful sore on the American conscience. But year after year, long after the whole Congressional do nothing charade had turned into a sick joke, he just kinda organized another commission to question the logistics of thinking about the legality blah blah blah.

Literally all that asshole was good for was another package of excuses. Absolutely worthless piece of shit.

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yes we can!

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63 points

“I think genocide is bad.”

“Well that’s okay, that’s just a small disagreement, we can find a middle ground between us I’m sure”

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biden can have little a genocide, as a treat.

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28 points

I keep forgetting we have that emote

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should be a permanent header for this com

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52 points

If Trump is really a wannabe fascist dictator just throw his ass in jail until he dies. Why hinge the whole thing on whether or not Biden wins?

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Because if they throw one president in prison it’s a slippery slope to the rest of them being held liable for their many, many crimes.

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26 points

You just did a fallacy there sweaty

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so all future US presidents will work from prison. i fail to see the problem here.

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That’s what they do with their politicians in the Australia of Discworld, they arrest them right away because it saves time

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Liberals insist that republicans are fascist, taliban, compromised by foreign agents, undemocratic, and evil and that only the Democratic Party can protect democracy. Yet they will still allow the republicans to operate and hold contests with them every 2-4 years.

One party communist government? BAD!

Convoluted “liberal democracy” where you allow the people you consider undemocratic terrorists to hold power and negotiate with them for bread crumbs even when you’re in control of the country and military? GOOD!

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They also jack themselves off for trying to be bipartisan with the aforementioned ‘terrorists’ too

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bipartisan

I absolutely hate that word in english. I grow up reading and hearing that “partyzant” is a guy who kills nazis and blows up their stuff. Bipartisan should be just two of them. And now every time i hear that word in english it’s always US ghouls agreeing on some ghoulish shit.

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I don’t know what’s more sad. Them cynically saying Trump launched a coup to scare their voters into voting for them, or Trump actually launching a clown coup failing and them being too much of weak pussies to fucking hang his ass.

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49 points

Vote for the guy is funding and supporting a genocide abroad vs the guy who wants to be a xenophobe at home. What wonderful options!

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61 points

biden is still building the wall, deporting tons of people and not dissolving ice. So the only difference is rhetoric.

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Not true, Trump would get rid of Roe!

And he’d saber rattle with China, increase the military budget while we’re not in any declared wars, bump border security’s budget, entertain deals with the other party to send Ukraine more weapons in exchange for more xenophobic border laws, he’d deep six student loan forgiveness, he’d let states pass all sorts of transphobic bills

Wait, I’m being handed a note

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personally I prefer my rhetoeic to be interrupted by plenty of pauses, slips of speech and _anyway_s, it’s just got a softer mouthfeel you know?

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Oh hey look at that, BlueMAGA has now reached the old 2018 RedMAGA benchmark of describing support for genocide as “a difference of opinion.”

These motherfuckers really are just the same people they claim to hate but on a time delay

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“Difference of opinions” is the worst fucking phrase to come out in the last decade.

People literally saying you just don’t like Biden, or Trump, or fucking kanye because of a “difference of opinions”

Love to ask these dipshits of they’d have a problem with somebody driving around their neighborhood with a megaphone saying they fuck kids and somebody should kill them would they have a problem with that.

Oh why just because you have a difference of opinions on the matter of whether or not you should be extra judicially killed?

At this point all you can do is turn it back around on them. You and Biden have some differing opinions on lots of stuff.

Like genocide, and whether or not there’s any chance you’d ever vote for him.

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