China has already enacted strict measures aimed at preventing sex-selective abortions, and health authorities also warned in 2018 that the use of abortion to end unwanted pregnancies was harmful to women’s bodies and risked causing infertility.

The state council said the new guidelines, issued on Monday, would aim to improve women’s overall access to pre-pregnancy healthcare services.

totally headline baiting from a shitty lib outlet as usual. sex-selective abortions are an issue, and this is part of a broader way to address socially conservatist sexism within China

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Clickbate headline, seems like it’s overall a positive thing if by “non-medical” purposes they mean addressing the issue with “sex-selective abortions”.

Obviously there are other material conditions regarding gender equality that motivated that trend in the first place that also should be addressed but I don’t see this as being problematic in any way.

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Yeah. The headline is pretty misleading if that’s the case. Maybe this should have been posted in the_dunk_tank.

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Saw this on :reddit-logo: and felt compelled to read the article. It felt very light on detail and I came away wondering what the actual new rules are.

Is it literally just a ban on sex-selective abortions? Because the headline makes it sound like China is going full Texas with an exception on “health of the mother is threatened” abortions.

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Yeah, there’s another stormfront thread on worldnews with a Reuters article about this that is instead titled

China says will reduce the number of abortions for “non-medical purposes”

And someone in the comments stated that if you look at the actual document, the context of reducing non-medical abortions is that they’re going to be improving sex education and access to medical care and contraceptives to reduce the number of people who need these abortions in the first place.

That’s objectively and wholely good, but I’m sure we’ll see a tidal wave of propaganda along the lines of this Guardian article.

EDIT: oughta just include the comment’s text actually:

China isn’t limiting abortion as a choice. China is promoting sex education to prevent unwanted pregnancy. It’s literally the sentence right before the one quoted in the title, which is relevant to the topic but for some reason wasn’t referenced in the article.

增强男女两性性道德、性健康、性安全意识,倡导共担避孕责任。将生殖健康服务融入妇女健康管理全过程,保障妇女享有避孕节育知情自主选择权。落实基本避孕服务项目,加强产后和流产后避孕节育服务,提高服务可及性,预防非意愿妊娠。

Google translate: Enhance the awareness of sexual ethics, sexual health, and safe sex in both men and women, and advocate shared responsibility for contraception. Integrate reproductive health services into the process of women’s health management to ensure women’s right to be informed and independently choose contraception. Implement basic contraceptive service projects, improve postpartum and post-abortion contraception and birth control services, improve service accessibility, and prevent unwanted pregnancy.

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Access to abortion shouldn’t be limited, need for abortion should be.

two parts of liberation from bourgeois dictatorship

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Access to abortions being limited is really unfortunate, but sex-selective abortion is terrible and I understand the need to do something about it.

The article also has no details of what is meant by “limit”, so I assume this is :lmayo: news doing what it usually does.

Edit: look at that, I was right. https://hexbear.net/post/142489/comment/1694483

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Guess it’s time to twist ourselves into knots to explain how restricting women’s reproductive rights is suddenly a good thing :yea:

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The drift towards more limits on abortion has been under way for several years. Jiangxi province issued guidelines in 2018 stipulating that women more than 14 weeks pregnant must have signed approval from three medical professionals before having a termination.

Guess we can just downplay and minimize the issue too, that works :yea:

China doing a bad thing is whatever, doesn’t affect me, but internet leftists defending bad things because China’s doing them makes me feel like my only options are uncritical support or uncritical opposition, at which point I will say, “Screw all y’all.”

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If that’s all it takes for you to default to western chauvinism then it sounds like your mind is already made up

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Love to wait until after the article is already debunked in the comments to make my anti-China post. :big-cool:

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People seem incapable of recognizing that China is at the end of the day just a country and not a perfect paradise. There’s lots of things they do much better and lots of things they’ll do worse, that’s how humans are.

Sure maybe this is just an intentional misreading of Chinese policy, US Media tends to be dishonest about it but even if it isn’t that doesn’t make “china bad” suddenly, it just confirms “China is place like everywhere else”

However I do agree at this point we should probably wait and see what this leads to, since right now it’s mostly just a stated intent.

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Uncritical support and it’s consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

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It’s to increase the number of babies born. China’s one child policy worked exactly as it was supposed to and now there’s not enough young people to pay for all the old people’s pensions. In a few decades something like 1/3 of China will be elderly. This is a disaster for an economy. You need lots of young people who spend, spend, spend. Old people collect retirement pay and do nothing for the economy.

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Why. Since when is China free of contradiction?

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It isn’t, but some people have idealized pictures of China, and if they ever admit that something China does is bad then it might shatter the illusion. If you have a more grounded view then it’s no problem to defend them overall while criticizing specific policies.

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