Permanently Deleted
Felling that rant OP. Reconnected with teenage friends recently and was pretty disgusted by some of the comments. We never actually talked politics back in the day. Weird hearing comments that were totally contradictory to the way we carried ourselves.
all of this is systemic to the ‘music theory’ intellectuals because it really is ‘the harmonic style of 18th century European musicians’ but they just don’t want to deal with critical takes on it
Lol I knew the exact video that you linked before I clicked on it.
I really think music theory needs to take the route of linguistics and try to analyze patterns in enjoyable music and try to figure out what makes something “music”. You are right that music theory right now is just a bunch of lanky white guys jacking each other off but it could be a lot more.
I’ve worked in the music industry full time for 10+ years, worked with countless musicians and I’ve found “being a musician” to be pretty useless in terms of whether I get a long with someone lol
I think fundamentally interest in music is just too broad a category to meaningfully be useful. Everyone likes music and tons of people from all walks like it enough to get into playing it.
We can talk about some music stuff but outside of that it can get stale, and tbh in all my years I’ve never met someone who I was aligned with politically. I’ve gotten close but most people are reactionary chuds and libs and so are most musicians
The rant was very much anecdotal, I’ve also got a lot less experience than you obviously.
I do enjoy the conversation I sparked though.
For sure mine is as well. I may have had a bit better luck but I’ve met tons of dumbasses who happened to be musicians lol.
Hope you find some like minded musicians soon. Maybe there will be some at a local org or something?
Since covid risks are dying down and live music is coming back, I’m gonna try to attend a monthly manouche night that’s local, maybe get the nerve to join for some songs.
Thats an interesting point about the Negro Spiritual genre.
One thing that makes it odd is generally the GJ players aren’t typically Roma, and especially now few of the players have any real connection to the origins. Its as if a white upper managment guy got interested in performing Negro Spiritual and made it his thing and started festivals and events for it etc.
Some Roma people like the term, as well as another group, the Sinti. Others don’t. Also in part is the derogitory nature in which Gypsy is used, often times the people at fault of crime and Roma travelers are not the same, but the “Gypsy” gets the blame anyway. Additionally there are two other period correct names for it, unlike the spiritual genre which was very specific.
Thanks for bringing this up, it’s a very interesting counter example to explore.
