I was an anarchist for a huge part of my life (most of my teenage years) and kinda began to get more connected with M-L and stuff like that, and I would call myself a marxist. Yet, everytime I talk with other leftist I either get called a tankie or an anarkiddie. If I recommend Das Kapital, I’m a state bootlicker or a left wing fascist. If I talk about how I prefer direct democracy but know that the process to communism is slow and needs some help of a state, I get called an anarkiddie. Anyway, I just find exhausting the infighting. I already struggle a lot with mental health just to be poorly treated by other people that, supposedly, want the same as all of us. Anyway you guys in lemmygrad have been always so nice, thanks btw. Have a nice week and thanks for reading my small rant.

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trust me on this comrade, the people that call you tankie or state bootlicker are not left at all. also, socialist countries do have mechanisms of direct democracy.

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I wouldn’t take anyone who throws tankie or red fash at you seriously. I roll my eyes when I hear those terms, I’d recommend seeking out some comrades through a local org or at least hanging out on here and hexbear.

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If the people you talk to reject Das Kapital, they are no Marxists, and not worth your time. Focus on connecting with other Marxists. Left unity is a fantasy: Marxist unity is very doable, and essential to building socialism. Those who reject materialism will have no revolutionary clout and only hinder the unity you seek.

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Direct democracy is very prominent on a local level in at least Cuba and China (at least that’s my impression), and probably in the DPRK, Vietnam and Laos, too. Having no elected representatives is completely unfeasible on a national level for any country with more than a hundred thousand or so citizens (and even that’s stretching it IMO – I doubt most people would be interested in keeping track of the effects of policies and events on tens of thousands of other people, especially if that’s not their full-time job), which is why AES countries use representative systems but ensure that officials can be stripped of their positions if their work is unsatisfactory. With that said, a disagreement on that front doesn’t justify insults

(obviously, people who reject you for recommending Capital are just unserious and/or ignorant, likely both)

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Don’t take anyone calling you tankie as an insult seriously, they’re definitely libs.

Hope you have a nice week too.

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I was part of the PSL (Party for Socialism and Liberation, a Marxist-Leninist political party in the U.S.) delegation to a local area coalition-building meeting w/ several other Left-wing orgs (DSA, SRA, CPUSA, IWW, + a couple others too unimportant to remember).

Only a few minutes into the meeting while discussing future additions to the coalition, one of the SRA guys said “Anyone but tankies”. I honestly burst out laughing. We’re the tankies! We’re already in your coalition! Ffs.

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this, for sure. anyone who calls you a tankie for that is just plain wrong. anyone who calls you an anarkiddie for preferring direct democacy is just plain wrong.

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