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But it isn’t a K-Mart flower pot, it wasn’t mass produced and you can study it to learn a lot of interesting things about geology and history. Even a K-Mart flower pot might give incredible insights to any future archaeologists, especially if it’s one of very few that could still be found. This feels like it could just as well have had the opposite intent.

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Any comprehensive study of ceramics will teach you that even a mostly good and consistent pot is rather rare. Much of the work that is celebrated today was ware that was celebrated then. Pottery is an extremely difficult art form, those kilns were firing and producing work constantly, and only the best works were likely to continue existing because they made their way to an aristocratic home that could afford that level of quality, and keep them out of practical use and instead as aesthetic pieces. If you use it, youre much more likely to break it.

Thats not to say that theres not plenty of wares that have incidentally survived in some form to the current day. Broken pottery comprises a lot of what archaeologists find in landfills, and those sherds can provide a lot of knowledge, more so than the dubious existing pieces.

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The thing about China is, it is utterly awash in ancient relics.

You can’t even dig a hole without uncovering some kind of ancient site with pottery, etc. Construction workers know to cover it up when it happens, otherwise the archaeologists get called in and work stops and they don’t get paid.

Han dynasty, Ming dynasty, Tang dynasty, the pots and pans are all over the place. And that’s not even counting the fakes, of which there are even more. China has no shortage of these.

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Indeed, a lot of the study of ceramics especially in china is over populated with fakes. Very small dinstinctive styles of ware that were produced in a small time frame like Ru ware, has orders of magnitudes (tens of thounsands) of fakes than actual confirmed pots (20ish).

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That’s true of pretty much everywhere. Every week there’s a new story of some road contractor bulldozing a 40,000 year old First Nations sacred site here.

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Not anymore it got yeeted

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it’s just a stupid fucking pot

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Garfield says fuck monarchies

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“I hate China, because its government is not following the orthodox Marxist vision for producing a better future for all, as Mao intended.” - dissident

“I hate China.” - American media quoting the dissident

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Mao certainly doesn’t seem like my first pick for an “orthodox Marxist” to be honest.

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this lame lib doesn’t get to quote mao

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i’m pretty sure he said it sarcastically, like “this is what you wanted right”

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Wow what a cool dissident artist, a guy who destroys an irreplaceable artifact of history

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In 1000 years, Tupperware containers will be artifacts of the ancient world. A container being old does not make it worthy of reverence.

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Dropping and smashing Tupperware as an an act of irreverent art a thousand years too early :sicko-yes:

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Pretty sure that pot had more labor put into it than a piece of Tupperware.

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depends on how we’re qualifying labor. The development of modern polymers/monomers took a considerable amount of time, research, and factory building. As Marx says, the end commodity is the congealed representation of all previous labor imbued within it. I’m going to guess a single piece of Tupperware requires something like 3 industrial plants to be constructed, at minimum a petroleum refinery. Clay pots are made from baked clay. Much of the value of an ancient clay pot is because of its rarity and historical importance.

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Yes it does.

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Depending on what happens between those 1000 years Tupperware containers absolutely have a chance of becoming valuable artifacts

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In 1000 years, Tupperware containers will be artifacts of the ancient world

they won’t though. Because tupperware containers are both 1) more indestructible and 2) FAR more ubiquitous (how many Han dynasty urns are there? How much tupperware is there?

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similarly, declaring something art doesn’t make it inherently valuable. this was still a pointless act of destruction.

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Yeah. If this wasn’t about his own ego he wouldn’t be in the picture. He’s taking a selfie with a historic item while destroying it so no one else can do it after him, thereby tying his image to the treasured item… Its kinda cringe.

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If this self-congratulatory horseshit is “based” and “transformative” then ISIS has his ass beat by a million miles

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