What the fuck is the ‘authentic experience’ of a chicken nugget that seitan is incapable of replicating, anyways? Also the burger patties I ate in school as a cringe baby carnist were 60% TVP soy to begin with, so if anything I’m being even more honest with my frozen slabs now

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My diet is like 70% carbohydrates and 30% meat substitutes

Yes I know it’s unhealthy, I’m in this for the animals, not for myself

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Fake chicken is close enough for me. A proper beef substitute is a bit harder, imo.

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Honestly the Carl’s jr beyond famous star/ burger king impossible whopper basically taste the same as the normal in my mind. I’ve never done side by side though.

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Unfortunately Burger King supports

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That’s fine, Carl’s jr is superior.

I used to live by BK but now they’re all like 20 minutes away.

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I did a side-by-side last summer with my husband; you can tell the difference when you’re paying attention, but it’s very very close.

I still like regular veggie burgers better, but the Impossible stuff is definitely useful for turning people.

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For Chili and stuff, definitely use soya de carne. It’s almost indistinguishable form ground beef. Harder to make into a burger of course but still okay.

Cuts of beef are a lot harder to make and will probably necessitate some more research tbh.

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Gonna look into that, thanks. And yeah, black bean burgers are “good enough” since burgers are really all about the texture and the cheese, honestly.

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hey you want to eat some imitation baby? It tastes just like the real thing!

That’s how you sound

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damn that’s some pretty good imitation baby

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I’d absolutely try imitation baby

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That’s just moralizing for no reason. Meat eating has been a part of most of the world’s cuisines for a very long time, so having substitutes to help more people transition is a very good idea. This point has been repeated a ton of times, but many people are ND and can’t change their habits very easily, or have texture / taste sensitivities

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sure, but the point stands. for a lot of us, the idea of eating animals is gross. it is a viscerally disgusting thing. we don’t eat animals not only because it is wrong but also because it is disgusting. the idea of eating stuff that is intended to be as close as possible to something disgusting is not appealing in the slightest.

and the comment is not “moralizing.” no one is saying it would be evil to eat imitation baby. it’s just … why would you want to?

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we don’t eat animals not only because it is wrong but also because it is disgusting

I don’t eat animals because it’s wrong. They tasted great to me on the day I stopped. It’s true that my taste has changed as a consequence of not eating animals - after a restaurant miscommunication I discovered that butter tastes weird now - but focusing on that is counterproductive for external messaging. Carnists eat flesh and think it tastes good. You can’t convince them that it tastes gross and trying to do that will have you dismissed as a picky eater.

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I’ll sound like that once they make imitation baby back ribs

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Okay but seriously though, there are a lot of things that are ‘imitations’ of things that are morally repugnant that are not only harmless but enjoyable due to the fact that no one is getting hurt from it. Like violent video games, some sexual roleplay and so on.

It’s less ‘we are imitating the animal harm hooray’ and more ‘we took the animal harm out of this thousand+ year old human food tradition, hooray!’ (or twenty+ year old if it’s the fast food stuff lol)

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they should make an imitation human baby called “humane baby”

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they can call it Unborn Baby

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I just want something chewy and savory with protein that I can dunk in sauces

imitation baby, tastes just like the real thing

???

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Please go outside. You seem mighty starved of nature, the place where plants like veggies and grass grow aplenty.

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I like my meat substitutes because I’m thoroughly uncreative and don’t ever intend on changing that. “Just learn new recipes” yeah I can’t even wake up in the morning let me have my fake mince Bolognese

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For real, and if the only thing standing between me and some godly grilled cheeze sandwich and tomato soup is “suffering” through a slice of coconut fat, salt and emulsifiers, I’m going to be enjoying a delicious grilled sandwich and dunking it in the soup.

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Also vegan sausages and sausage rolls are

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Honestly anything fried properly ends up crunchy on the outside and soft and chewy on the inside.

Protein helps since it’s naturally soft and chewy when cooked, but it’s not like my mouth and stomach counts the macros. Fried tofu is a cheap and easy go-to for me. I like tater tots too

Sauces don’t belong to anyone lmao I add sauces to everything anyways

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