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Denazification begin

Nazis or not, this is insanely stupid and counterproductive. And a war crime, of course.

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The Ukrainian government has been violating the Minsk agreements for 8 years and splitting hairs about whether or not shelling schools and civilian targets technically counted.

I’m not surprised it’s finally boiled over.

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I told at least 3 fucking libs this week that if this were 2003 they’d be falling for “WMDs in Iraq,” hook, like, and sinker.

Abso-fucking-lutely. Never forget that Hollywood libs roundly booed Michael Moore when he spoke out against the invasion at an awards show.

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Correct, but any attack beyond DPR and LPR isn’t defensible in my view. This whole thing is the West’s fault, but Putin is escalating things in a way that’s dangerous and harms innocent people.

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Depends how far they go. I could see a scenario where they take out nearby military bases so they can’t retaliate after Russians eventually withdraw.

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do you think they should leave behind the pro-usa/nato governmentr in kiev which has been shelling people in dpr/lpr

most likely they are going for regime change there

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Serbia 2.0, sigh. Truly a dangerous pandora box that opened by the US

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There are so many weird Nazi groups involved it’s almost comical if it wasn’t so sad.

Wagner group, for instance a Russian PMC with high up members heavily invested in pagan and Norse mythology, and lower ranked members with swastika tatoos. I know them for their weird deployments in Africa, but apparently they’re heavily involved in Ukraine as well. Then there’s the obvious ones like Azov battalion, etc.

It’s just Nazis everywhere.

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wait is world war 3 going to be giant nazi in-fighting

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This war is just two different sides of people with swastika tatoos accusing the other side of being either a nazi or secretly controlled by the jews. Although I guess the Ukrainian president being jewish makes the russian nazi argument less about crypto-jews and more just general antisemitism.

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Denazification begin

Please none of this. That’s a pretext and not likely to be the outcome. Shit is hitting the fan - let’s focus on mutual aid and careful analysis.

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it’s also literally part of the justification from the russian gov lol

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No no no.

Now that military operations have begun, it’s time to forget all that shit and Ukrainian white nationalism and the far right coup government that’s running the country.

Everyone in Ukraine is a :LIB: Always have been.

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i meant that as a bad thing lol, parroting the russian state line is not something you should be doing lol

Russia, Ukraine and NATO are all the bad guys here lol, support the innocent ppl caught in the cross fire, not the imperial states

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Well yeah that’s what I mean by pretext.

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Incredibly easy to just say “i want no involvment in this conflict”, but that’s too simple for OP, he had find some way to pick a side in this inter-imperialist conflict.

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This is alleged aim of putin, but op could be more sensitive/less trusting of Russia’s aims

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The thing is as leftists you’d expect OP, one of us, to know better than to look at these surface claims. It would be wild if someone here took a Jen Psaki press release raving about Democracy in Ukraine at face level no?

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sometimes its easy to hear something that sounds good and want it to be true, we all have moments of weakness

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https://hexbear.net/post/176319 megathread is here, start herding yourselves into there at a leisurely pace

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