Don’t know how many peeps here have seen the latest season of True Detective called “Night Country”, but so far I’ve really enjoyed it. However strolling over to lovely has a lot of blubbering manchildren upset about the new season which just so happens to have two female leads, focuses upon abuses of Native Alaskans and women in general (domestic abuse, murder, etc), and also has native empowerment over exploitation as a theme. Well I just watched the final episode and I fuckin’ loved it, so here’s kinda a short tldr of it marked as a spoiler as I encourage y’all to see the show first if you haven’t (it’s an anthology so really only Seasons 1, 3 and this one are worth it).

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Alright so the season began with a murder/suicide of a bunch of research scientists digging up ice cores to find microbes for eternal life or whatever (they had been found naked dead on the ice), however while checking the crime scene a human tongue is found and connected with the murder of a Alaskan Native woman several years ago by the name of Annie K (a woman that protested the activities of the local mining corp that was poisoning the town leading to stillbirths and other horrible stuff). Annie was a central figure to the town’s native population being one of the younger upcoming midwives and spiritualist (don’t know the proper term). She had been found stabbed and dumped over by the mine and her murder buried by the police and local politicians in cooperation with the mine to avoid public backlash.

Welp turns out she was murdered by the Tsalal scientists when she found out they were the ones responsible for the pollution in a bid to thaw the permafrost and ice to get to harder to reach ice core samples. This would later be found out by the local circle of Native Women who performed a lot of the menial labor in town (maids and so had access to a lot of areas such as the police station, the mining office and the Tsalal station), so in revenge the women staged a faked suicide on to the ice, forcing the men at gunpoint to strip and wander into a blizzard for the sins they committed (all the men were responsible for stabbing Annie K to death Agustus Ceasar style when she tried sneaking into Tsalal many years ago to find info on the pollution). Anyway the season ends with the current cop duo covering for the Native women and letting the murder go unsolved as well as resolving issues of mother hood and sisterhood (similar to how season 1 was about the lacking of fathers and brothers/comrades as a secondary theme).

So yeah gonna be a lot of in response to the show being turned into “Woke Detective”. Anyway it’s a pretty good season and is worth a try even though it does drag sometimes (but is thankfully only 6 episodes something I think was wisely chosen by the show lead).

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It’s actually way funnier. I CTRL+F’d the thread to see what the reactions would be.

I actually didn’t get any feminist themes outside of the main characters being female.

What do you see as the feminist and indigenous power of this story? Is it just because the leads were women?

This is the most unadulterated feminist rage I’ve seen on screen for a long time. Time and time again it exposes misogynistic violence and punishes it. Yet even when it’s this unsubtle, all the average reddit nerd can see as feminist is “it has women in it”.

We joke about how “political” to these people means “women or people of colour exist”, but it is not just a facade. It’s literally all these nerds can comprehend.

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There’s a reason I love the one Putin meme line of “you are a westerner and so I already know you are functionally illiterate”. Like holy shit what the fuck happened, do people not understand the basics of themes in stories or are American consumers just wanting media to be a self insert fantasy trip like fucking isekais for anime nerds?

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Finally finished it.

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I’ll echo the sentiment a lot of people have been making, it was a good show, but not really a good True Detective show. I probably would have liked it MORE had it been it’s own little miniseries with no relation to TD.

The ending reveal was a bit too cathartic, TD supposed to end more with a creeping horror of “oh we didn’t really solve the WHOLE mystery” as the detectives walk off into the night.

Plus the villainy of the villains felt a bit too SciFi and less eldritch to me, the evil in other TDs is more just the physical and emotional lust of the wealthy manifesting in mysterious way. Now I think there is maybe something cool you could have done with the immortality angle, the rich would love nothing more than to keep the pedo orgies going on forever, but just having a bunch of creepy nerd scientists and not some shadowy group you barely get a glimpse at robbed some of the horror for me.

Some other nip picky complaints about minor plot holes, yadda yadda.

BUT MY FUCKING BIGGEST GRIPE! THE ONE THING THAT ACTUALLY DETRACTED FROM MY ENJOYMENT! NO BIG CREATIVE SHOOTOUT SCENE!!!

No seriously that a fucking foundational element of True Detective! S1: chase scene in the projects with the bikers, S2: when they raid the meth lab run by the Mexican gangsters, S3: rednecks attack the native American guy’s house. You have to have a big cool shootout scene for it to be a true True Detective season and this one didn’t have one! This is my most major complaint.

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I was hoping for eldritch horrors too. Was thinking maybe they awoke something under the ice or there was a cult for like Yog Sothoth or some shit

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Yeah I was hoping rich people were getting high off of powdered Dino bones and sacrificing women to an ancient god or something.

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Yeah I was wondering how much the Tuttles were actually involved and if this was some arctic cthulhu stuff going down.

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So is Navarro immortal or what? I’m too dense to get it but like the mom, the sister and Navarro are all mediums? Like I don’t get the point of her walking off onto the ice at the end but then showing up at the lake house in the final scene, or them showing the scene with Clark shaking and her as Annie

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I felt that Navarro either accepted her role as some type of Yupik spirit hero (“they who bring the light after the long dark”) or she’s just dead and Danvers more or less is okay with seeing ghosts now (a metaphor for accepting our connections to those we love but are dead maybe?)

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I really liked it, and thought it was creepy and cool. The references to the first season seemed unnecessary, but whatever.

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I support women’s rights, and also women’s rights.

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