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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia’s youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Yesterday’s discussion post.


It’s interesting watching western media, which thrives on and requires fast-paced, big events to function, losing its shit as the war grinds on. The imagination of the average journalist is very hyperactive, and they jump at their own shadows.

The reports from the front are just like “Russia reports that they took these three villages… DPR continues fighting back Ukraine in this stronghold… Kadyrov applauds the bravery of the troops… X tons of humanitarian aid is delivered to Ukraine… today, Y Ukrainian soldiers were killed… Z refugees from Ukraine were taken in…”

Whereas the western media is like “Why PUTIN the DANGEROUS INSANE WAR CRIMINAL is LOSING THE WAR and will NEVER LIVE THIS DOWN and will probably BE COUPED! The DERANGED MADMAN is being kept IN THE DARK by his own scared advisors! UKRAINE CANNOT LOSE and is EPICALLY HUMILIATING RUSSIA in their fight for FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY! 86 RUSSIAN GENERALS were UTTERLY SLAUGHTERED today due to ABSOLUTE INCOMPETENCE. Putin must be getting DESPERATE and will announce MASS MOBILIZATION OF THE ENTIRE RUSSIAN MALE POPULATION in approximately FIFTY-THREE MINUTES! Even though Ukraine is OBVIOUSLY WINNING because RUSSIAN LOGISTICS are SO LACKLUSTER and are using SMOKE SIGNALS TO COMMUNICATE and their PLANES CAN’T EVEN FLY and their TANKS ARE OLD AND RUSTY also they’re all DESTROYED and they forgot to put FUEL IN THEIR GAS TANKS because they’re all STUPID CONSCRIPTS, we must continue to give Ukraine our ARSENALS OF DEMOCRACY to resist and give them 33 BILLION DOLLARS. It’s Ukraine’s FINEST HOUR and Zelensky should be made PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD because of how EPIC AND COOL he is.”

It would be exhausting if it wasn’t so entertaining. They’re all off in some idealistic fantasy land.

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They had footage of aerial assaults with the aircrafts’ HUD showing.

I’m old enough to remember seeing this on TV during the gulf war yeah

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I’m sure there’s a :party-parenti: or :zizek-fuck: quote about this somewhere but I’m too lazy too look it up rn.

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Former Brazilian president says Zelensky wanted war

Brazil’s former President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva has said Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky was interested in plunging his country into a war.

“He did want war. If he didn’t want war, he would have negotiated a little more,” da Silva, who served as president from 2003-2010, said in an interview to Time magazine that was published on Wednesday.

Da Silva said the West is encouraging Zelensky. "He thinks he is the cherry on your cake. We should be having a serious conversation: “OK, you were a nice comedian. But let us not make war for you to show up on TV,” the former president said.

Da Silva said he doesn’t know the president of Ukraine but thinks he’s acting weird. “It seems like he’s part of the spectacle. He is on television morning, noon, and night. He is in the U.K. parliament, the German parliament, the French parliament, the Italian parliament, as if he were waging a political campaign. He should be at the negotiating table,” the Brazilian politician said.

Da Silva said that, “People are stimulating hate against Putin. That won’t solve things! We need to reach an agreement.”.

Lula Be Wrong Challenge, difficulty impossible

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Obviously Lula is absolutely spot on here.

Apart from being a bit of a puppet, I wonder if Zelensky just took a good look at the situation he inherited when he got into office (a dreadful economy, population loss, a civil war in the East, massive corruption - not all of it friendly to him - and an increasingly militarised block of Nazis who would only tolerate him for so long) and realised that any kind of peacetime unity was going to be impossible. So a nationalist war, with formalising the Nazi bloodlust against the Donbas, was the only route he could see to a Ukrainian project that he could maybe survive (politically and literally).

Obviously thats a fucking ghoulish calculation on his part, I’m not defending it, but it would at least be some sort of rational beyond a naive-turned-unhinged coke-fuelled ego trip.

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It’s pretty straightforward. He’s a puppet and his anglo masters told him “agitate against Russia and do not compromise in any way, make the maximum demands, we totally have your back dude. Oh, if you don’t do this you are out of the job and we will find someone else who will”

We don’t have to analyze Zelenskyy’s psychology here. It’s pretty straightforward. He’s a comprador puppet for foreign imperialists and he’s doing his job.

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I mean, I agree but I don’t think it’s reading too deeply into his psychology to consider the material conditions in front of him and why he’s so happy to have the west order his country to march into oblivion.

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I’m guessing he’s getting immunity for financial crimes.

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On May 2, Germany stopped giving Russian gas to Poland, Gazprom reported. Now Warsaw is taking Russian gas intended for Italy and France in reverse.

let them fight :very-smart:

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The Polish, Finnish and Bulgarian grandstanding is hilarious. They are still gonna use Russian gas, now they have to import it backwards through a middle man. They get the same end product for higher prices and complexity, Russians benefit even further from higher energy prices from the artificial scarcity & European gas lines get clogged up with gas going back and forth for no reason

Rational and efficient system

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You got a source though? That’s very interesting if they are just siphoning gas they didn’t pay for… someone at the end of the pipeline is going to end up getting no gas that they have paid for. This is a game of musical chairs, Poland volunteered to remove their chair while the music was playing and now they are trying to hog Germany’s when the music stops

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Poland is definitely getting weird with it

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Yep. Europe was offered a contracted price deal and chose market price instead because they thought they were sneaky lol

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This is too hilarious, not to give any sources, because it seems I can’t google any non-western news any longer…

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yamal pipeline gas flow has just stopped…

EDIT: Let it begin .may it be beautiful … the layers of Madness … Poland victim complex … Media framing Gas users as Amoral etc… oh man … as reality has no chance of Dawning on libs , they will go so fucking mad…

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lmao

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Europeans stop infighting challenge.

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Biden also told his audience that Ukrainian parents are naming their newborn children “Javelin or Javelina” in honor of the American-made missiles.

:agony-shivering:

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Hog time! :Hoggers:

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Naming my kid “NLAW” to own the Russians

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30 years later

“Here’s my mother, NLAW”

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Naming my kid T-34 to own the Nazis and also because he’s actually a communist robot sent back in time to assassinate the billionaires.

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Come with me if you want to live

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Meet my kids Sarmat, Kinzhal and Kalibr.

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:yes-sicko:

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Maybe I just suck, but “Javelina” is a weirdly decent-sounding girl’s name to me …

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too damn close to being ‘‘Jabalí’’ which is just a wild hog in spanish, lmao

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30-50 Ukrainian hogs

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:feral-hog:

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Are you saying that’s a bad thing?

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is trump a writer for this guy?

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That’s just how Ukrainian works. The language genders last names (e.g. Zelenskyy’s wife is Zelenska), so of course first names are going to be gendered.

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Javelinas are a type of pig :Hoggers:

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Why are so many people on :reddit-logo: minimising Nazi crimes? I know I probably sound like a conspiracy theorist, but this has to be a concerted effort, right? Surely libs aren’t THAT ignorant?

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Their brains have been completely broken. I don’t think even the CIA hoped to achieve such levels of manufactured consent. Anyway, one lib I was discussing with is constantly trying to whitewash Azov neo-Nazis as “not really neo-Nazis”, the other one says Azov war crimes are understandable, third one claims there aren’t actually any evidence of Azov war crimes, the fourth one is going with “the Jewish president”, the fifth one is just blaming literally every war crime on Russians while claiming he is very unbiased…it’s a shit show.

I did, however, notice already, a certain decrease in a level of interest for Ukrainian war, which is surprising to me, given the absolutely incredible aggressiveness and “intensity” of lib takes during previous 2 months.

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The Will Smith Slap legit snapped a lot of libs out of the Ukraine situation hypnosis.

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Maybe the abortion thing will remind them to step back from the reactionary brink. 😓

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This is spot on.

Obviously there’s always been a lot of propaganda in media and a geo-political void in education and understanding, but it’s gotten so much worse in the last 10-15 years.

Part of it is that media outlets have largely given up on the idea of journalism between the increased pressures of state intimidation and increasingly competative profit motive. Whether because it suits their new owners or just to survive, most news organisations overwhelmingly write and promote editorial opinion. On the ground reporting and legacy experts have dwindled to almost nothing, while commitariat whose only job is to rope in potential echo chamber inductees have exploded. And when they’re not contributers who need big numbers from controversy or hyper-targeted advertising markets, they and their articles are usually paid or subsidised by think tanks or organisations like the Gates Foundation.

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They tuckered themselves out

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Are these people irl? If so, damn that would take a mental toll on me.

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They are Nazis

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Why are so many people on minimising Nazi crimes?

Just the are we the baddies sketch but it stops before that with them admiring the skulls and black uniform and going “this is good actually!”.

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