Imagine you live in the US and you have dual citizenship: American/Canadian. You have a job that allows travel. Considering the Christofascism that’s coming…
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When would you move to Canada?
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If you stayed in the US - when might you realize you waited far too long and you had a “Oh, fuck - I’m the frog” moment?
I want to stay in the US and I live in a super-blue county in a blue state. But I don’t want to become the frog. I have such dual citizenship and moving is doable for me provided I plan as far ahead as possible. I don’t expect Canada to be nirvana but I fear the worst for the US.
Canada has better halthcare in general not just specific to this situation. The benefits are betterband the adjusted cost of living is also better.
I honestly don’t think I could live in a place that cold but there are colder parts of the us.
The majority of Canadians live very close to the border. I think within ~50 miles. I have to do my homework to see what I can afford. I’d love to live in Toronto but it’s insanely expensive. Maybe I could live in a exurb.
I certainly will not move to a place like Edmonton that’s much father north and has bitter winters. I think it’s something like ~500 miles from the border.
The Maritimes probably have the lowest cost of living, but winters are a huge snowdump and you get the occasional hurricane. Central Canada is getting yikes on politics, Albeta/sask are rightoid pits, manitoba is a swamp, BC is nice but extremely expensive, the territories are probably out of the question but the Yukon is nice but insanely expensive.
Yukon
Without googling - I can’t name a single city in that province territory.
yikes on politics
I have to focus on that too. So I have at least three things on my mind now on my very short incomplete list: politics, price, and weather.
If you’re rich the west coast has rainy winters. Anywhere else you get by. Winters are cold, summers are hot, expect about an 80 degree C swing over the year in extremes (-40c - +40c, -40f - +104f). Buy high quality winter clothing (under layers, outer layers, jacket, boots, toque, gloves) and prepare to shell out for plowing services or a snow blower if you have a laneway.
Also understand that wildfires, floods, and extreme weather like tornadoes and hurricanes on the east coast are increasing aswell.
I live in the sun belt. I don’t own shoes because I dont need them. I don’t think I could find my jacket. Cold is fundamentally alien to me.
If you don’t own shoes for summer you’re going to get chewed by bugs up here too. There is no good season, Spring will still have snow most places, fall is cold and wet, summer is generally humid and buggy, winter is winter.
i can’t leave. reasons i’ve gone over before. i’m going to fight this as hard as i can, or link up locally with anyone from libertarians to anarchists to weather the collapse and do mutual defense.
When would you move to Canada?
In terms of self-preservation: immediately if there are no other factors keeping you in the US.
If you stayed in the US - when might you realize you waited far too long and you had a “Oh, fuck - I’m the frog” moment?
When the Brownshirts are organized and patrolling and nobody is stopping them.
With that said, there’s still time to do organizing work before the status quo shifts substantially. That status quo is already bad, so I understand people wanting to leave, though.
If I had a ticket out of the US I would’ve already used it
When would you move to Canada?
If I could have left by now, I would have. I just don’t see how I can get through immigration. For a specific date, probably when Bush pushed hard on anti-gay policy and won in 2004.
If you stayed in the US - when might you realize you waited far too long and you had a “Oh, fuck - I’m the frog” moment?
I already feel that way. I’m queer and in the south. I saw Thomas’ opinion. They’re coming after gay marriage and sodomy. Maybe not this year or next, but they’re coming and the Dems won’t stop them. At minimum, I have to move to a different state. I can’t in good conscience put down long-term roots in a place that will absolutely outlaw those things the first chance they get. Even then, it’s really just hoping that there’s enough resistance to the GOP to keep them from enacting federal bans on them all.
