This is completely normal and is not an indication of the complete unraveling of the country

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Lots of leftist forget that successful revolutions focused on education as a core tenant (alongside taking over the state) since you either educate your populace or wind up with crazed reactionary culture among people.

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Tbh anyone who doesn’t take this attack on fucking public education very seriously has lost the plot

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hexbear users outing themselves as highschoolers

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Teachers can be a bunch of assholes. But at the same time many are great. Some people just have bad experiences but it’s pretty clear a lot of people benefit from schooling even if the capitalist goal is to produce workers and not an educated population

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Teachers can be a bunch of assholes.

That’s because some teachers get into teaching because they don’t know what else to do, and fucking hate it. Others start with good intentions but get worn down by the lack of funding and poor organisation at the managerial level.

Also, kids can be assholes too, especially teenagers.

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While leftists have been arguing about doing a heckin accelerationism, the chuds are slamming down the gas pedal and rolling coal right into the Cool Zone™

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This is only going to increase the likelihood of balkanization.

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Communists are trying to destroy America!?!?! We can’t let that happen! Watch this!

guts America’s ability to govern itself

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I mean, the fundamental underlying premise here is that the pursuit of monetary profit for it’s own sake, and the achievement of it, necessarily means that you are doing the most functional good. It’s the intended & necessary end-point of Marginalist Economics, which all forms of contemporary, institutionally respected Economics are in one way or another. Social utility or “The Good” can only ever be defined abstractly/numerically, because people are all individuals with specific & particular preferences & desires. Because people all have specific & particular preferences, only they can know what’s best for them & so they must be allowed to act autonomously in the pursuit of their interests, and free markets are what best facilitates that. Thus operating profitably in the market means that you are necessarily achieving the greatest material social good.

This is all obvious bullshit if you actually look at the material outcomes of market societies, but it’s convincing enough (and flattering enough to their sensibilities) to people of a liberal mindset to not raise objection most of the time, and those who lack one know that it’s in their material interest to maintain the facade.

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plus a cost-saving measure to boot, since the total funding parents would receive through ESA vouchers is $4,000 less than Arizona’s already paltry per-pupil funding for public schools

:ancap-good:

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I mean, that’s better than bigger vouchers. Ideally vouchers would not be a thing, and if they are ideally they are disincentivized so few people use them. Every voucher taken is another bite taken out of public education as a whole

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Lol what kind of garbage education can you get at a private school with a 7k voucher good luck with that chuds hope you like your kids working minimum wage forever

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It’s effectively the end of education for the poor.

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i just got wild deja vu from this. where have i read this before? r you quoting someone in your post???

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Poor kids :sadness-abysmal: and poor parents tbh

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As a teacher, :yea:

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I’m so sorry you choose such a noble career in such a hellish country

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A quick search shows that the average cost per student in Arizona is $8800 in public schools and $10300 in private schools. A $1500 difference doesn’t seem that bad, but a $3300 difference from the get-go, which will inevitably widen as the voucher is eroded down, is a categorical difference.

Tbh I think that a progressive homeschooling collective could do a lot more than many private schools do with the same funds.

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